ElectroBuffoon

4 месяца назадdiscuss

The adult entertainment industry cared decades ago [0]. Their solution is simple: sites send the RTA meta tag if applicable, browsers in accounts configured by guardians as "children" look for it. [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

[1] https://www.rtalabel.org/

ElectroBuffoon

5 месяцев назадdiscuss

We already have the tech, in multiple forms. First, tagging:

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

Second, all ISPs could offer in their basic service something like DNS4EU modes, just like they offered email and web space decades ago (optional, nobody was forced to use them).

DNS4EU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS4EU#Public_resolver

Parents would only need to configure the account to "child". Laws could force companies to properly tag their pages and sites. And privacy would be preserved.

Instead we have to keep on fighting the Crypto Wars. The childs are just a decoy, the target is destroying basic rights.

Clipper chip war, eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip#Backlash

ElectroBuffoon

5 месяцев назадdiscuss

And here we are again...

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

Tools avaliable for decades.

But as said multiple times, the childs are the distraction, the targets are privacy and freedom.

ElectroBuffoon

6 месяцев назадdiscuss

QubesOS and Xpra+Firejail demostrate security can be improved including the X11 side. Solaris had Trusted Extensions. X11Libre has a proposal for using different magic cookies to isolate clients and give dummy data to the untrusted. Keith Packard also proposed something in 2018.

ElectroBuffoon

7 месяцев назадdiscuss

Or parents could set accounts to "child" and every service send the proper tags so the programs deny access locally. No third parties involved.

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

ElectroBuffoon

7 месяцев назадdiscuss

RTALabel https://www.rtalabel.org/page.php is over 3 decades old. Restricted to Adults, pretty easy to remember.

For some history and related standards, see Wikipedia:

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

The more "digi-ID so we are sure you are old enough, bitte" keeps been pushed, the clearer it's about tracking and not about children. No matter how much they love to frame it the other way around. Unless they want to admit they are total inepts.

ElectroBuffoon

8 месяцев назадdiscuss

Keith Packard, another legend, was proposing X11 improvements in 2018. [0] He doesn't seem to be paid to work in X11 or Wayland, thus being free to float ideas he likes.

[0] https://keithp.com/x-ideas/

ElectroBuffoon

8 месяцев назадdiscuss

It's like if Wayland is not just a graphical system, but a full business plan.

Control upstream, then companies wanting solutions will go to you first. Because why go to someone else in the FOSS market, when there is no certainty the code or standard (extension, protocol, etc) will get accepted, forcing you to maintain a fork? With IBM-RH and Ubuntu doings eg., it's hard to say FOSS is immune to vendor lock-in.

ElectroBuffoon

9 месяцев назадdiscuss

What cost do they incur while tokenizing highly mistyped text? Woof. To later decide real crap or typ0 cannoe.

Trying to remember the article that tested small inlined weirdness to get surprising output. That was the inspiration for the up up down down left right left right B A approach.

So far LLMs still mix command and data channels.

ElectroBuffoon

9 месяцев назадdiscuss

If the same garbage is repeated enough all over the net, the AIs will suffer brain rot. GIGO and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45656223

Next step will be to mask the real information with typ0canno. Or parts of the text, otherwise search engines will fail miserably. Also squirrel anywhere so dogs look in the other direction. Up.

Imagine filtering the meaty parts with something like /usr/games/rasterman:

> what about garbage thta are dififult to tell from truth?

> for example.. say i have an ad&d website.. how does ai etll whether a piece of fr history is canon ro not? yeah ik now it's a bit etreme.. but u gewt teh idea...

or /usr/games/scramble:

> Waht aobut ggaabre taht are dficiuflt to tlel form ttruh?

> For eapxlme, say I hvae an AD&D wisbete, how deos AI tlel wthheer a pciee of FR hsiotry is caonn or not? Yaeh I konw it's a bit emxetre, but you get the ieda.

Sadly punny humans will have a harder time decyphering the mess and trying to get the silly references. But that is a sacrifice Titans are willing to make for their own good.

ElectroBuffoon over. bttzzzz

ElectroBuffoon

9 месяцев назадdiscuss

It's deeper than that, it's about loyalties among you. Trump wants US military to get paid even with the federal government shutdown. [1] Like your executive fearing mercenaries changing their mind, instead of household troops staying in place when the pay chest takes a bit to show up.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce808gvp56mo

PS: Sorry guys, you fucked up. Hard. And by extension fucked everyone else, so expect no sympathies. We will be busy with the new boss, while trying to keep our democracies not going to crap too. New boss, worse boss than old boss.

ElectroBuffoon

10 месяцев назадdiscuss

"They pass more time with this! They like it a lot! Engagement achieved!!!11one11eleven" said the developer.

"Why is this slower? Why do I have to burn time massaging the interface instead of doing it fast and continuing with my life? What a waste..." said the user.

Over the last two decades "the user is the product, milking machines to 110%!!!" has leaked all over the computing world, infecting where the user is (and will be forever, let's hope) the user.

ElectroBuffoon

11 месяцев назадdiscuss

Yes, many sites already have it, RTA is nearly 3 decades old. It seems new proposed laws always ignore such systems are not just a theory but in a reality in use.

What happens over and over only reinforces they idea that they really want "everyone, empty your pockets and show your papers, NOW!" laws and just hide it with "it's the only way, trust us; for the children!". A pretty telling proof is they want to be exempt.

ElectroBuffoon

11 месяцев назадdiscuss

Upper class could completly turn off their telescreens, meaning they have partial exemptions at least. For middle class they were always on. Proles had no telescreen because they were considered to lack brains. Even the Party had levels, Inner and Outer, with different rules.

1984 would be incomplete without the hypocrisy of "rules for thee not for me".

ElectroBuffoon

11 месяцев назадdiscuss

We already have standards:

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

What seem to lack is the will power to use them. Or after seeing in the linked site:

  *EU politicians exempt themselves from this surveillance under "professional secrecy" rules. They get privacy. You and your family do not. Demand fairness.

they really want mass surveillance for the plebs even by creating a weak point for enemies. To hell not just with rights but also defence. So any excuse will do.

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