captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

This is a pretty good point. However, there's also the chance that they can't use the gear and that's why they're sending it: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=virus+t...

However, could be this was a one-off genuine mistake (things are hectic). I'd love to know more

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

If real information about China were to leak out, my guess is it would happen through the vector of internet/social media. Chances are, some other source would need to copy + repost it before being taken down. This is what I looked for.

One such account which is purportedly doing this is https://twitter.com/truthabtchina. To summarize this, among other rumors:

    - lots more people have died that communicated (there's an estimate of ~22m due to missing cell phone contracts)
    - riots are happening between regions where lockdown occurred, and regions next to them)
    - lockdown isn't practically over in areas where resurgence of infection is happening (pending other containment approaches)

edit: I've eaten dinner with some friends from China in the past month before lockdown started, and am in frequent contact with people traveling throughout SEA. I was trying to provide and summarize a potential semi-primary source. Added some more specific #'s, info, and removed inflammatory words. Sorry - I wasn't trying to be fear-mongery. However, I am trying to accurately reflect a harsher reality

I do think it's quite reasonable to assume some areas of China are getting back to normal.

I also think it's quite unreasonable to assume info _isn't_ being censored and controlled, especially post journalist-eviction.

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

I'll drop into this more, because we might not be connecting on what layers we're talking about. I'm talking about immediate medical survival. If by "resources" you're talking about financial/economic support, then I could very much agree with an "everyone right away" approach.

I see the immediate health layer as subject to physical limitation, the economic layer subject to informational limitation. If by resources you mean money, then yes, I very much agree.

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

Part of the benefit of living in America is the fact America will put it's citizens first, no? I fail to see how putting the rest of the world before our own countrymen could at all work. To many, that would be viewed as betraying countrymen if we didn't handle it here first. I'd even posit that an America that's contained and controlled COVID-19 is better for the world than one that's not.

I'm _not_ saying we shouldn't help the rest of the world. That's the very next thing. I'm saying, let's make sure we're not drowning before trying to help others not drown.

This is a really weird line of reasoning because I don't think it even holds in the case of a broader unity.

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

A kind of concerning thought: who's to say there aren't higher-level versions of this same concept playing out? Say we figure out the nature of consciousness and are able to effectively interact with it's "thinginess." Then we find: there are things in our universe that're semi-conscious, but feed and replicate on/inside/with the consciousness of others and are incapable of existing on their own.

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

How's the process of getting him to present go? I'm interested in doing the same!

captain_crabs

6 лет назадdiscuss

would you even suggest this over riker?

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