HackerTrans
TopNewTrendsCommentsPastAskShowJobs

deepmacro

no profile record

Submissions

Show HN: Tenno – Markdown and JavaScript = a hybrid of Word and Excel

tenno.app
401 points·by deepmacro·2 года назад·138 comments

comments

deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Thanks, great suggestions, and some of them were already on my todo list.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Thanks, I'll definitely reach out!
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Hi there, thanks! Send your comments here https://forms.gle/A8Q8WAG8zj4sLvwQ7 and put your email in there, I will definitely reach out with updates. If you're up to it we could even meet sometimes for a coffee!
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Nice, I saw this years ago!
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Tables are something I want to tackle and I'd like to do them right because (as you point out) are crucial. I didn't get there yet...

I want to make it such that you can code on the left and then hide everything and share that with non technical folks. That's why I did not use a Colab, creating something interactive with it (and I did that quite a lot in the past) it's a bit of a PITA.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
I think having to use a tool different than excel is hard because people have been used to that type of UI for 40 years.

The problem I have is that once you go beyond a simple thing it becomes messy and you never know what you are dealing with. The way you present things graphically and they way you organize data to perform computations are tangled, making hard to read IMO.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Nice work!
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
I was hesitant to call it a variable because most people that only use excel are not going to be familiar with that concept. Suggestion for other names?
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Glad you like, I'll keep you posted for new updates in case you're interested.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Good idea, thanks, I'd also like to prevent edit mode on mobile so one can only see the HTML rendered part.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
In Italy it's at the end, hence my interpretation
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Thanks! I was always told the dollar is a prefix unit while the euro is not, but perhaps between european countries there are differences in that...

Anyway, yes the editable thing is a known problem that could be fixed by switching to a view mode rather than an edit mode. The problem right now is caused by keeping in sync the edit field and the code on the left side.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
It can execute arbitrary JS in your browser using eval(), that could be why.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
nice I did not know about this, thanks for sharing!
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
I was trying to get a sense of what people like and find useful. Your suggestions and comments are helping to figure that out.

I am planning to add support for entire tables, like one coming from a gSheet, and then present data from it. But not there yet, if you have suggestions, please add them to the feedback form https://forms.gle/A8Q8WAG8zj4sLvwQ7
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Thanks! Yeah, I kind of want to integrate with gSheets so you can have a place where you can dump the data and then operate on it.

Also need to find a nice and easy way to deal with local tables, I'll look into the extension you suggested.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
The idea was to have a more linear way to express your thoughts and adding calculations. Another big problem for me was that in excel when you want to create various plots for the same multi-variate problem you have to create a ton of copies of your data and formula.

For sharing files, it could be as simple as sharing a text file. You can also imagine a future where you create something and you only share the nice looking html view that is still interactive.

Running locally? not a problem, I already tested packaging this into a OSX app and it was like 4MB and has the same functionalities.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Ah, yes, I just fixed that. While you edit, if the code is not valid now it will prevent from crashing the whole thing (band-aid fix).
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
Honestly, no. I heard of it but I never used it. I am sure it has a lot of features that can inspire Tenno, I'll look more into it. One of the main points here was making it more approachable, but it depends on who the audience is.
deepmacro
·2 года назад·discuss
+1 this! I think writing helps you create a narrative that disambiguates the mess you can create in Excel. It also forces you to think more about what you do. Good suggestions! Thanks