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doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
> None of these laws punishes possession ...

> which are directed to not stock these books

You see how these are opposites, right? Stocking a book in a library is possessing it. The laws punish libraries for having a book in their collections, and that punishment can include years in prison.

Years in prison for a library having a book in its collection.

Libraries are some of the bastions of freedom and liberty in our nation, they represent the fundamental ideal that free speech should be accessible. Telling libraries that they should not stock books is antithetical to freedom and liberty.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
> No they don't. Stop lying.

I'm sorry you don't believe me, but librarians are facing jail time in Tennessee, Indiana, Missouri, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. Librarians (typically school librarians, but in at least one state also public librarians). The books their collection owns is a book they own. The states are telling them they could go to jail for owning a book in their collection.

In Arkansas, a librarian can now face 6 years in prison for 'Obscene material' but provide no guidance on what 'Obscene' means. Laws that are selectively enforced and provide no clear guidance are laws that are designed to limit speech and limit freedom.

Simply saying "no." and accusing me of lying does not change the fundamental truth of the matter.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
Yeah, I would argue #1 has been commonly involved in genocides in the past, where works of a particular culture are removed from curricula to prevent children from learning about their cultures.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
> Why are you posting google doc links?

Because that's the way the organization makes the information available. Is Google docs on topic?

> In any case, when was the last time a book printer faced criminal charges for printing a book? A book reader for reading a book? A shop for selling a book?

You forgot: "A book owner for owning a book."

School librarians in the US face prison time for owning books in parts of the US. Has anyone actually been prosecuted for those laws? Not yet, they are new laws.

Has anyone decided to stop owning books because those laws exist? Yes, absolutely.

The government telling you what books you can own, and if you do not comply, threatening you with prison is absolutely a thing that's factual in the US.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
I don't think that's the case.

Where is "Where the Sidewalk Ends" by Shel Silverstein banned in the US by a state, local, or federal government?
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
"Books banned in the US" has two correct readings (regarding banned books by governments):

1) "Books that were banned, somewhere within the US"

2) "Books that were banned, across the US"

In this case, at the behest of state and municipal governments, there are books that fit into reading one.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
> Certainly there is no government which punishes distribution, printing or reading of those books.

Yes, state and municipal level governments have banned books in the US?

Here's a list of some example laws in, e.g., education: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tj5WQVBmB6SQg-zP_M8u...
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
Not sure why virtue signal is being used ironically? Every political and social group is capable of virtue signaling. Plenty of folks left, right, and center who Virtue Signal their beliefs.

IMO, it's a useless term, since it's essentially saying, "someone did something they didn't genuine believe in", but there's little to no ability to demonstrate someone's actual intent.

Call people hypocrites (if that matters from you) or unauthentic.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
Mondragon is. You might not be familiar with them, but they are a federation of co-ops in Europe that are a billion dollar business and are the 10th largest industrial group in Spain.

They do R&D, Finance, Manufacturing, and a bunch of other stuff.

https://www.mondragon-corporation.com/en/

There's no axiomatic reason why an Intel or Microsoft couldn't be a co-op or federation of co-ops. It just didn't shake out that way this time.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
> But I sure couldn't produce the tools I want without making use of the work of profit driven people, simply because advanced tech is a lot of work, takes hundreds of people, is too big for anyone to understand and thus is almost never made if idea-exploring is the main motive, and generally seems pretty tied to profit.

Kropotkin's model of anarchist society is that we still have guilds and federations of workers, mostly composed of people drawn to whatever they are interested in most. If the farmers produce food, and the workers produce tools for the farmers, we can exchange them without having to profit from that exchange. Take the food or tools you need.

Over time, as practices become established, group up with other farmers, tools producers, etc. and form guilds that are democratically run. Those guilds negotiate with other guilds to help drive what tools are in demand and work to increase them.

Chip fab would necessarily be slower under the system -- democratically run organizations do take longer to reach consensus -- but we would probably route around that a bit by doing with fewer chips. (Or maybe we'd see more people enter chip fab as their career if there wasn't the concern about bankrupting themselves by going to college.)
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
I'm an anarchist --- wait hold on! --- not like "The Purge" kind, but the "mutual aid and share what you can" kind. I genuinely believe that if we operated more on a "people will produce the tools, food, and art they want to produce, and will improve their working conditions if given the opportunity" mindset, and less on a "hit this deadline so your boss makes a buck" mindset we'd be able to finish more of our 'side projects'.

I think we all naturally have these projects in mind, things we would pursue if we had the time. And I think we could move towards a world where we optimize a little less for maximizing profit, and a little more for maximizing our leisure time. It will take some structural reforms, some trust, and a whole lot of learning by doing, but I'd much rather live in a world when I had less stuff but more freedom to pursue things I enjoyed.
doingmaths
·3 года назад·discuss
I'm definitely guilty of not finishing projects, but I don't know that the "Just do the thing and don't NOT do the thing" is a particularly useful piece of advice. I know I should "fight for the time on the project" but willpower to do so isn't always something that's available.

And that's not a personal failing -- I might decide that tonight I want to work on my game, but then have a long day at work that leaves me emotionally and physically exhausted. It's important not to burn out on your projects too, and forcing labor on them when you do not have the spare capacity can lead to long term failure to complete the projects as well.

I think the much more valuable lens is to consider -- "Why do I work on this project? Is the joy of finishing it important to me?" If you want to finish it, and cannot, then start looking into pushing yourself to finish. If the joy is in just tinkering because tinkering is fun, then allow yourself that pleasure and don't beat yourself up for finding something you enjoy and partaking in it.