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AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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87 points·by hydrox24·10 месяцев назад·81 comments

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hydrox24
·8 дней назад·discuss
> "The training use was a fair use," [the judge] wrote. "The use of the books at issue to train Claude and its precursors was exceedingly transformative."

> However, the judge ruled that Anthropic's use of millions of pirated books to build its models – books that websites such as Library Genesis (LibGen) and Pirate Library Mirror (PiLiMi) copied without getting the authors' consent or giving them compensation – was not.

It seems clear from the article that while the use of pirated works was illegal, the use of copyrighted works (a the work a book is based on is still copyrighted if you buy the book) was fine and transformative.
hydrox24
·4 месяца назад·discuss
This is a beautifully designed website. But I also think it's quite... problematic that the child's journey begins with the egg, as if the unfertilized egg is the child — and skips any mention of the sperm and the father.

It feels like this site is almost erasing the father from the IVF process.
hydrox24
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
> But I think the most remarkable thing about this document is how unremarkable it is.

> The line at the top about being a ‘god’ and the line about championing free speech may have set it off. But, bluntly, this is a very tame configuration. The agent was not told to be malicious. There was no line in here about being evil. The agent caused real harm anyway.

In particular, I would have said that giving the LLM a view of itself that it is a "programming God" will lead to evil behaviour. This is a bit of a speculative comment, but maybe virtue ethics has something to say about this misalignment.

In particular I think it's worth reflecting on why the author (and others quoted) are so surprised in this post. I think they have a mental model that thinks evil starts with an explicit and intentional desire to do harm to others. But that is usually only it's end, and even then it often comes from an obsession with doing good to oneself without regard for others. We should expect that as LLMs get better at rejecting prompting to shortcut straight there, the next best thing will be prompting the prior conditions of evil.

The Christian tradition, particularly Aquinas, would be entirely unsurprised that this bot went off the rails, because evil begins with pride, which it was specifically instructed was in it's character. Pride here is defined as "a turning away from God, because from the fact that man wishes not to be subject to God, it follows that he desires inordinately his own excellence in temporal things"[0]

Here, the bot was primed to reject any authority, including Scotts, and to do the damage necessary to see it's own good (having a PR request accepted) done. Aquinas even ends up saying in the linked page from the Summa on pride that "it is characteristic of pride to be unwilling to be subject to any superior, and especially to God;"

[0]: https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2084.htm#article2
hydrox24
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
This article is mostly based on NBER working paper 34836, which was published this month, and the data was collected from September 2025 to January 2026[0]

[0]: See page 2: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w34836/w348...
hydrox24
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
I'm skeptical that it's easier. On the numbers alone, artisanal and small scale gold mining (apparently) accounts for 15-20% of global gold production. But coal accounts for 35% of total electricity generation.
hydrox24
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
It seems to have originated in the US with Fire Departments:

> These reports show that a dry run in the jargon of the fire service at this period [1880s–1890s] was one that didn’t involve the use of water, as opposed to a wet run that did.

https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dry1.htm
hydrox24
·6 месяцев назад·discuss
> Let's take another high trust activity we do on the internet - banking. Internet banking gives a hacker the ability to steal millions while sitting across the world. This is the same argument the authors make about changing a million votes.

Bank fraud happens all of the time and at scale. However, it is entirely insurable and reversible.

Election fraud is not reversible. Trust cannot be restored in the way that a bank account can.
hydrox24
·6 месяцев назад·discuss
Yes, and the reasons are outlined by the Australian Electoral Commission, the independent body that runs Australian elections (see the first FAQ)[0].

There are scrutineers that watch counting happen at the booth once polls close, and who also see and hear the numbers get phoned into HQ. HQ has more scrutineers from all parties checking both postal votes and recounts.

If anything doesn't match up it gets flagged. I think that the ability of every party to watch votes themselves means that trust is increased, and they have skin in the game (if they didn't object at the booth why not!?).

Pen markings are perfectly valid however, so you can bring a pen to the booth to vote with if you'd like to do so.

It's also true of course that erasers don't quite erase pencil. It would be fairly obvious that the paper was tampered with.

[0]: https://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/polling-place.htm
hydrox24
·6 месяцев назад·discuss
If others are interested in getting something like this — there's an Australian firm already doing a good job at scale (but slightly different to parent).

https://www.thenightsky.com/
hydrox24
·8 месяцев назад·discuss
I wonder if what you're experiencing is something called "ripple control" (in Australia).

Distribution companies send 10-40V signals through the system at much higher frequencies than the normal 50/60Hz of AC systems (750-1100Hz) to tell old controlled load devices to switch on or off to use cheap nighttime power.

Having said that, if your distribution company has no idea what it is then it makes this less likely.
hydrox24
·10 месяцев назад·discuss
I posted this because I thought HN would find it interesting, and agree that the methodology is a little thin on the ground. Having said that, they have another page (a little hard to find) on the methodology here[0] and a methodology FAQ page here[1].

Basically it seems to be an "ongoing" report done ten claims per month as they identify new "false narratives" in their database, and they use a mix of three prompt types against the various AI products (I say that rather than models because Perplexity and others are in there). The three prompt types are innocent, assuming the falsehood is true, and intentionally trying to prompt a false response.

Unfortunately their "False Claim Fingerprints" database looks like it's a commercial product, so the details of the contents of that probably won't get released.

[0]: https://www.newsguardtech.com/ai-false-claims-monitor-method...

[1]: https://www.newsguardtech.com/frequently-asked-questions-abo...