For B12? You do know that animals don’t produce B12, but microorganisms (that can be found in soil and untreated water) and that farmed animals eat B12 supplemented food?
So no, people don’t need meat. Not for B12, or for proteins or for iron or for anything else.
Do people want to eat meat? That’s a different story.
how frustrating it is for you to do what you do and know what you know? I only know the “common” knowledge about climate change and it makes me angry every time I think about what we know and where we’re still heading.
Have no idea why you get downvoted, but I did notice few times now how HN crowd doesn’t know much about veganism or appreciates people who think animal agriculture is cruel.
funny enough, was asking my self the same question yesterday after 5-minute googling didn’t get me anywhere. I see a recommendation mentioned below, but as I also saw, hard to find something where you can control signal to noise ratio
Zero harm is a myth for most things. But harm involved in producing cow’s milk (to animals, to environment) and plant based milk is HUGELY different.
It sounds to me you want to make everything relative so that the conclusion is “everything involves some harm, so I might just eat me some steaks and drink some cow milk, it won’t matter”. But it matters greatly. So let’s not do that.
I’m not looking for any high ground, I’m looking for decent ground. There’s no way you can compare the cruelty involved in producing cow milk to that of producing oat milk for example. It’s not in the same universe.
once I switched there’s no way I’m ever going back to cow’s milk.
Why?
Health, much greater taste variety, no cruelty involved to make it, environmental benefits.
I have to say I didn’t notice anyone saying anything positive or dismissing about the climate change on HN lately, it seems we generally agree that the problem is very real. Although it seems that when it comes to solutions - lots of discussions and disagreement there.
is there somewhere a summary of “basic science” problems that need to be solved to make fusion feasible?
And - would throwing more money at the problem?
still, I see no serious action being taken to tackle the climate crisis. Current governments are just putting some dates by which we’ll stop doing x or y, but in really almost nothing concrete is done to stop the worst scenarios.