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tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
That sensible conclusion is "you can't save everyone"

I never said you could.

It must be hard for you to get around with all these slippery slopes you keep seeing everywhere
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
Yes I've seen the same thing. As you say, lots of orgs have had to reorient themselves around the safeguarding process
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
I dont think anyones advocating going that far

edit: I would advocate for a sensible area somewhere between the two ludicrous extremes of 'everyone just look out for themselves' and 'collars that monitor every moment of their lives' based on general consensus arrived at via public discussion and democracy.
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
Yep here's a UK gov report about the data sharing that makes the app possible

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
And here's a uk government report about the data sharing mechanisms for the app https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
There's no secrecy about it, the app, who has access to it and why is explained here:

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/social-care-and-health/...
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
Here's the description of the system from https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/social-care-and-health/...

Think Family Database (TFD)

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The Think Family Database (TFD) supports and connects safeguarding professionals from Bristol City Council and other public sector organisations.

The data collected by Insight Bristol is securely held in the TFD, and includes information from approximately 50,000 families across Bristol.

The TFD pulls together data from several public sector sources including:

-Bristol City Council (Children Social care, Early Help, Education)

-Avon and Somerset Police

-Department for Education

-Department for Work and Pensions

-South West Commissioning Support Unit (SWCSU)

The data from these organisations displays vulnerabilities or needs. It gives practitioners working with families an understanding of:

-the family's immediate need

-which services the need comes from

The practitioner can contact the relevant service. This helps the practitioner better support the family because:

-the practitioner can discuss the family's immediate issues with the agencies involved

-the family does not have to repeat the same story

This embedded approach helps practitioners coordinate support for families who are most in need. Sometimes those families are obvious but often they are hidden. The TFD highlights the hidden issues.

Using targeted analytics, the system also helps identify children at risk of:

-sexual exploitation

-criminal exploitation

-not being in education, employment, or training

This information supplements the wider council Think Family approach.

These models do not replace professional judgement or decision-making. They guide and supplement the work of professionals and provide information about children at risk that professionals may not easily see. This early identification means that support and interventions can be put in place to stop problems turning into crises.
tempaway22641
·3 года назад·discuss
Lots of people here not really understanding how this works in the UK.

A few times there's been a big media stories in the UK about a child who got badly abused or killed in domestic situations and then afterwards it turns out that various people (social services, teachers, charities etc) had concerns about the child's safety but concerns weren't written down or joined together and so the child could have been saved/rescued but wasn't.

So now in the UK we have a system of 'safeguarding referrals' where if someone has concerns they must make a safeguarding referral to social services but social services are terribly underfunded so the safeguarding referrals tend to pile up or just get filed unless they are really urgent. So now we have the problem of someone somewhere being responsible for wading through all the information and then identifying when the various reports from various places add up to a serious situation.

Hence you get an app like this where info from various agencies can be gathered in one place. https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/social-care-and-health/...

If you're going to hold government services such as social services or teachers responsible for childrens safety then this sort of thing is needed. And if you think thats not the job of the state then fair enough thats your opinion but in the UK the status quo is that it is the job of the state to look after vulnerable children/people.