throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

That’s okay. So if he serves as a bad example for me and inspires three others for me to behave well then I can expect to be forgiven too. Overall his effect is still positive and I’m not responsible for my actions. Al Gore is. Or does only his positive contribution get counted?

throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

> There's a good case to be made for humans being primarily meat eaters for much of our history and only eating plants as an alternative to starving

To really contribute, it would be nice if you came up with some citations to your claim.

throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

Well, I look at climate change heroes like Al Gore, jetting around the world and spending his resources graciously. If he can do it, why not me?

EDIT: also note that he has 3 rich kids. Is this more eco friendly than eating meat?

throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

> But this is an invisible blip on the radar compared to the climate impact of the meat industry

Me eating meat is an even smaller blip, why bother with taking my meat away?

The truth is that you have to lead also by example or you’re not credible.

throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

Well, so far I have no kids. My impact on the planet seems to be very temporarily and the damage I do will be forgotten in a hundred years. If I have 1.4 kids (my expected number of kids), it will take a bit longer but still damage is decreasing at fixed resource consumption per person.

throwaway3957

7 лет назадdiscuss

I personally used to be very concerned about ressource efficiency. With a new doomsday message every day, I decided to make most out of my resources now until some eco-shmock is going to make it unavailable for me. I fly all the time and eat as good as I can. Maybe tomorrow it will be only a memory but that’s more than making a big trip other year and then nothing.

Edit: BTW, this is not trolling. I represent a real niche group with an unknown number of people behaving consciously or unconsciously the same. I think it’s an important information in the discussion. People downvote me because they don’t like that it is happening but it’s real.

It’s like downvoting climate change because you don’t like it happening.

Edit: Rebuilder, that’s a good question. What would change my behavior? I think positive role models could help. Leaders that say we restrict ourselves to meat once a week or even better: here is my CO2 footprint (and please no offsetting bullshit). That’s how it developed over the last 2 years. Etc.

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