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Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

news.ycombinator.com
4,229 points·by usefulposter·4 месяца назад·1,668 comments

OpenAI requires ID verification for GPT-5.3-Codex, silently reroutes requests

twitter.com
15 points·by usefulposter·5 месяцев назад·2 comments

crabby-rathbun bot: Obstacles - PR blocked. Re‑open from different account?

github.com
1 points·by usefulposter·5 месяцев назад·1 comments

Grokipedia just surpassed 4,06,070 edits across 60,92,140 articles

twitter.com
4 points·by usefulposter·5 месяцев назад·5 comments

Clawdbot creator harassed by crypto hivemind targeting Yegge, developers

twitter.com
3 points·by usefulposter·6 месяцев назад·2 comments

Tesla didn't remove Robotaxi safety monitor – just moved them to a trailing car

electrek.co
26 points·by usefulposter·6 месяцев назад·7 comments

Fansubbing and Encoding Guides Index

github.com
3 points·by usefulposter·6 месяцев назад·0 comments

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usefulposter
·4 месяца назад·discuss
Generated comments are not welcome here. Please respect the guidelines of the community.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated

>Don't post generated comments or AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans.
usefulposter
·4 месяца назад·discuss
>who cares

dang cares.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47077431

    (1) Generated comments aren't allowed on HN - this rule predates LLMs but obviously applies even more now: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20%22generated%20comments%22&sort=byDate&type=comment

    (2) If you see accounts that look like they're mostly posting genAI comments, please let us know at [email protected].
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46747998:

    Please don't post generated or AI-filtered posts to HN. We want to hear you in your own voice, and it's fine if your English isn't perfect.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
You might want to check the front page :^)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47153644
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
>snowhale

Oh, would you look at that?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47134072
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Click on the profile.

Read every comment made since the account started posting again.

Tell me what you think about those comments.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47077431, by dang, 4 days ago:

    All:

    (1) Generated comments aren't allowed on HN - this rule predates LLMs but obviously applies even more now: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20%22generated%20comments%22&sort=byDate&type=comment

    (2) If you see accounts that look like they're mostly posting genAI comments, please let us know at [email protected]. That's how I found my way to these cases.
>"But I use it to help my English!!!! Who cares if it's AI if the comment is good??????????"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46747998, by dang, 1 month ago:

    Please don't post generated or AI-filtered posts to HN. We want to hear you in your own voice, and it's fine if your English isn't perfect.
If you don't flag this shit when you see it, HN is fucked. The commons is fucked. And you all keep upvoting and replying to comments from accounts that start posting 30 comments a day after 2 years of silence that are all one tightly packed paragraph of pablum with the same structure and tells that are harder to fix than replacing the em dash with a double hyphen.

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P.S. The actual comment is (surprise!) completely wrong. Visit Settings -> AI Controls and you will see a granular set of feature switches under the master kill switch. Each has a clear title and description and is independent.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
You have to believe me this time!

The homogenization of your computing life to revolve around a chatbot in a loop———is all you need!

Give in! Hackernews NEEDS you to use the 1000th vibecoded clawmolt because the influencers said so! Who needs neural net or web framework experience when you have claws?
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Hey, it's just like the Gas Town diagrams.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46746045
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
>or I can step back if the AI assistance undermines the discussion.

Yes.

Please don't post generated or AI-filtered posts to HN. We want to hear you in your own voice, and it's fine if your English isn't perfect.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46747998
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
tl;dr: We apologize for getting caught. Ars Subscriptors in the comments thank Ars for their diligence in handling an editorial fuckup that wasn't identified by Ars.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Just like in the original thread that was wiped (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47012384), Ars Subscriptors continue to display lack of reading comprehension and jump to defending Condé Nast.

All threads have since been locked:

https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards...

https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/is-there-going-to-be-a...

https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/um-what-happened-to-th...
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Incredible. When Ars pull an article and its comments, they wipe the public XenForo forum thread too, but Scott's post there was archived. Username scottshambaugh:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260213211721/https://arstechni...

>Scott Shambaugh here. None of the quotes you attribute to me in the second half of the article are accurate, and do not exist at the source you link. It appears that they themselves are AI hallucinations. The irony here is fantastic.

Instead of cross-checking the fake quotes against the source material, some proud Ars Subscriptors proceed to defend Condé Nast by accusing Scott of being a bot and/or fake account.

EDIT: Page 2 of the forum thread is archived too. This poster spoke too soon:

>Obviously this is massive breach of trust if true and I will likely end my pro sub if this isnt handled well but to the credit of ARS, having this comment section at all is what allows something like this to surface. So kudos on keeping this chat around.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
I wish I had a super-upvote.

"OP here" or "Author here" in posts is an obvious one when you see it. (In both cases, it's completely redundant!)

As for comments, regurgitating the input too closely and overusing abbreviations are highly indicative, yet many commenters don't notice.

See for instance (slop warning) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46986273 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46965103.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Well, since we're all talking about sourcing training material to "benchmaxx" for social proof, and not litigating the whole "AI bubble" debate, just the entire cottage industry of data curation firms:

https://scale.com/data-engine

https://www.appen.com/llm-training-data

https://www.cogitotech.com/generative-ai/

https://www.telusdigital.com/solutions/data-for-ai-training/...

https://www.nexdata.ai/industries/generative-ai

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P.S. Google Comms would have been consulted re putting a pelican in the I/O keynote :-)

https://x.com/simonw/status/1924909405906338033
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
I expect the GitHub Comms and Policy teams will soon update the AUP to permit this kind of automation misuse so long as there is an "owner" attached. Which will still be meaningless in practice.

Also, I see the prominent AI promoters are absent from this and the previous thread. Curious!
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
>We want it

>We've trained it

>We added

>We want them

Please be specific in your attribution. Who's "we"?
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law becomes truer every day.

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It's worth mentioning that the latest "blogpost" seems excessively pointed and doesn't fit the pure "you are a scientific coder" narrative that the bot would be running in a coding loop.

https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/0...

The posts outside of the coding loop appear are more defensive and the per-commit authorship consistently varies between several throwaway email addresses.

This is not how a regular agent would operate and may lend credence to the troll campaign/social experiment theory.

What other commits are happening in the midst of this distraction?
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
LLM-generated prose undermines a social contract of sorts: absent LLMs, it is presumed that of the reader and the writer, it is the writer that has undertaken the greater intellectual exertion. (Cantrill)

≈

The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it. (Brandolini)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
>you're not actually engaging in conversation

Users seem to be persistently flagkilling their comments. That doesn't help facilitate effective conversation of LLM critique.
usefulposter
·5 месяцев назад·discuss
Concerning is the fact that, once initialized, operators of these "agents" (LLMs running in a loop) will leave them running and tasked with a short heartbeat (30 minutes).

As for the output of the latest "blogpost", it reads like a PM of the panopticon.

One "Obstacle" it describes is that the PySCF pull request was blocked. Its suggestion? "Close/re‑open from a different account".

https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/2...