Airplane and the Decline of Comedy(nypost.com)
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Airplane and the Decline of Comedy
https://nypost.com/2021/10/15/airplane-creator-slams-joy-killing-threat-twitter-9-percent/
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If twenty years ago you had told me, "One day we'll live in a world where the NY Post is a more intellectually honest and insightful paper than the NY Times", I'd have laughed in your face, but here we are.
You'll also find many investigative stories in the Daily Mail, which was considered yellow press 20 years ago.
For example, it was the first to feature the story about Prof. Abbot's lecture cancellation at MIT. The woke press simply no longer covers these stories.
For example, it was the first to feature the story about Prof. Abbot's lecture cancellation at MIT. The woke press simply no longer covers these stories.
You have to chuckle at someone calling the New York Times woke.
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Semi related, but to anyone reading, is there a word for someone's "personal Overton window"? Like when someone's window is so far right that they call CNN communist propaganda?
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Semi related, but to anyone reading, is there a word for someone's "personal Overton window"? Like when someone's window is so far right that they call CNN communist propaganda?
The NYT isn't woke per se, it's simply the newspaper of the establishment, which is exactly what it always has been. The establishment happens to be woke at the moment. When that changes, I'm sure the NYT will change with it. The same way they went from cheerleaders of the Iraq war to champions of the "Resistance".
Always has been :/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/corres...
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ci... “The Agency's relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/corres...
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ci... “The Agency's relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials.”
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“Some things which were commercially successful for broad markets in the past would not be today, just as some are today that would not have been in the past, because of strong offense to disproportionately influential groups. Because the group offended by work in which I have a financial interest is the one in play today, this constitutes a ‘decline’ of culture. Or at least my passive income opportunities, which is approximately the same thing.”
Of course, its also wrong on top of the other problems: genre-parody movies of the type for which Airplane! is the iconic example still get made [almost stamped out on a production line] today, and while the exact jokes change with the times, the style and themes of the humor are quite similar. You absolutely can make movies like that; the only challenge with selling them to studios seem to be competing with the 97 other variations of the same broad idea the studio has in development for funding and a release date.
Of course, its also wrong on top of the other problems: genre-parody movies of the type for which Airplane! is the iconic example still get made [almost stamped out on a production line] today, and while the exact jokes change with the times, the style and themes of the humor are quite similar. You absolutely can make movies like that; the only challenge with selling them to studios seem to be competing with the 97 other variations of the same broad idea the studio has in development for funding and a release date.
> still get made
Can you give some examples that aren't utterly neutered and dumb? I don't know of any in at least the last decade. Certainly nothing Zucker-grade.
Can you give some examples that aren't utterly neutered and dumb? I don't know of any in at least the last decade. Certainly nothing Zucker-grade.
Borat.
'Airplane' (aka 'Flying High') has always been my favourite movie. I never mind shelling out for it in different media.
Many of it's lines come out of my mouth in relevant day-to-day situations. Just yesterday it was 'Vector, Victor'.
Many of it's lines come out of my mouth in relevant day-to-day situations. Just yesterday it was 'Vector, Victor'.
We still have this kind of comedy today and its very lucrative for the studios that aren't playing the PC/woke games.
Book of Mormon and South Park especially come to mind.
Book of Mormon and South Park especially come to mind.
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My diagnosis? The “theatrical Hollywood movie”, as a format, has become too expensive. Despite it never being easier for anyone to record video, theatrical productions have never been more expensive to produce, market and release.
And so they are first and foremost a financial investment, with all the modern consumer-analytics-driven optimization that comes with that. It sucks the life out of a project. It’s a safe, risk-conscious decision for producers to steer clear of edgy material.
Put simply, there’s too much money at stake. TV is cheaper, and other formats and mediums cheaper still. And those are where you go for jokes today.