The founder of Gmail claims that ChatGPT can “kill” Google in two years(fincash.biggrow.in)
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The founder of Gmail claims that ChatGPT can “kill” Google in two years
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The comments here seem to think this is hype.
But I wonder... instead of searching for "window blinds", you said "I'd like to buy some window blinds that work in my bedroom. I like the room to be completely dark when I sleep, but open up automatically at sunrise. I would also like them to be insulated to keep my room temperature comfortable."
What if the search benefited the customers and fought SEO and fake reviews?
also, the article says this: "Mountain View’s CEO Sundar Pichai is claimed to have declared a “code red” and instructed Larry Page and Sergey Brin to speed up Google’s AI projects in response to the chatbot’s popularity and climb"
But I wonder... instead of searching for "window blinds", you said "I'd like to buy some window blinds that work in my bedroom. I like the room to be completely dark when I sleep, but open up automatically at sunrise. I would also like them to be insulated to keep my room temperature comfortable."
What if the search benefited the customers and fought SEO and fake reviews?
also, the article says this: "Mountain View’s CEO Sundar Pichai is claimed to have declared a “code red” and instructed Larry Page and Sergey Brin to speed up Google’s AI projects in response to the chatbot’s popularity and climb"
ChatGPT gets its knowledge from somewhere. How would it not be suspect to manipulation? There isn’t one objectively superior set of blinds.
I do also see it as a danger for Google. I just don’t see how would they not have the same problems and solutions as Google search
I do also see it as a danger for Google. I just don’t see how would they not have the same problems and solutions as Google search
> What if the search benefited the customers and fought SEO and fake reviews?
Why even worry about fake reviews when ChatGPT is perfectly happy to confabulate on its own?
Why even worry about fake reviews when ChatGPT is perfectly happy to confabulate on its own?
Google is still the king 'finder'. That's what it will probably continue doing well.
Chat GPT is a bit more like Siri, and I think whatever it becomes, it will be a new kind of space. And it won't quite be 'search'.
That said, there will be incredible overlap.
If you're looking for a compendium of recipes for something -> Google, if you want a random but quality recipe for whatever right now -> ChatGPT. If your looking for that specific web site / app that had the recipes -> Google. At least for now.
Though if you're looking for that recipe you were using last month, for gosh sakes Google, why haven't you or Apple or MS sorted that out? How do we still not have great localized search? It's 2023, it's not an algorithm problem that's a lack of product vision problem.
Chat GPT is a bit more like Siri, and I think whatever it becomes, it will be a new kind of space. And it won't quite be 'search'.
That said, there will be incredible overlap.
If you're looking for a compendium of recipes for something -> Google, if you want a random but quality recipe for whatever right now -> ChatGPT. If your looking for that specific web site / app that had the recipes -> Google. At least for now.
Though if you're looking for that recipe you were using last month, for gosh sakes Google, why haven't you or Apple or MS sorted that out? How do we still not have great localized search? It's 2023, it's not an algorithm problem that's a lack of product vision problem.
Ironically, on mobile, the entire “above the fold” screen for this website is Google ads, which aren’t at risk of a LLM.
ChatGPT won’t replace all search use cases, like where you’re actually targeting a link, not searching for an answer, eg when you’re searching for a particular restaurants menu.
For years Google has been slowly pulling data off websites to present on the search results page, to A LOT of hand-wringing about depriving the end page of a click-through. ChatGPT will give Google a perfect excuse to dramatically ramp up that practice (and incorporate more AI into the process). This is how they’ll avoid cannibalizing their own product with search.
Also, ChatGPT probably can’t ever match googles per-query cost simply due to the price of GPUs.
ChatGPT won’t replace all search use cases, like where you’re actually targeting a link, not searching for an answer, eg when you’re searching for a particular restaurants menu.
For years Google has been slowly pulling data off websites to present on the search results page, to A LOT of hand-wringing about depriving the end page of a click-through. ChatGPT will give Google a perfect excuse to dramatically ramp up that practice (and incorporate more AI into the process). This is how they’ll avoid cannibalizing their own product with search.
Also, ChatGPT probably can’t ever match googles per-query cost simply due to the price of GPUs.
I can see this being true as there are a lot of people who accept whatever they find on a random website as truth. Why not have an answer bot you can guide to give you the answer you want
AI-centric products are to Google what MP3-centric products were to Sony in 1996.
They have had the tech for years but they aren’t making real strides to productize it for fear it will diminish their currently-dominant revenue streams.
With Sony, they owned big Music and Movie production companies so they were conflicted. Big parts of the company didn’t really want MP3/4 to take off. So the company that first dominated portable music (Walkman) dragged their feet made terrible products while Apple made the iPod and came to nearly own the entire business.
So it is with Google. Imagine a world where a something better than ChatGPT is also hooked to the real-time net and has a flexible/portable UI —-like a smart-browser. It’s conversational, ask for what you want, it delivers. It suggests things that delight you. It can handle pretty much any format.
No need for search means no place for ads.
No need to sift through hundreds of superfluous SEO-driven words and in-page ads to get to your recipe. No need to watch watch ads in video or watch any of the superfluous filler to get to the content you want.
Google has already explored this world and has built and given access to some such tools. But like Sony, they aren’t all that excited about a product that makes search, browsing and really all information access different than the current model that they know and dominate.
They have had the tech for years but they aren’t making real strides to productize it for fear it will diminish their currently-dominant revenue streams.
With Sony, they owned big Music and Movie production companies so they were conflicted. Big parts of the company didn’t really want MP3/4 to take off. So the company that first dominated portable music (Walkman) dragged their feet made terrible products while Apple made the iPod and came to nearly own the entire business.
So it is with Google. Imagine a world where a something better than ChatGPT is also hooked to the real-time net and has a flexible/portable UI —-like a smart-browser. It’s conversational, ask for what you want, it delivers. It suggests things that delight you. It can handle pretty much any format.
No need for search means no place for ads.
No need to sift through hundreds of superfluous SEO-driven words and in-page ads to get to your recipe. No need to watch watch ads in video or watch any of the superfluous filler to get to the content you want.
Google has already explored this world and has built and given access to some such tools. But like Sony, they aren’t all that excited about a product that makes search, browsing and really all information access different than the current model that they know and dominate.
In the next two years I bet that 'the founder of Gmail' will clarify on what he meant about this greatly exaggerated wild claim.
Interesting take, considering recent news that Google is already testing a competing product https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34605311
I find it hard to believe that it can beat Google in 2 years. ChatGPT is so expensive that OpenAI is starting to charge for it. Search is free and can continue to be free for a long time. It makes no sense that ChatGPT can beat it in 2 years. It's true that it's a big threat to google but Google is a fierce competitor. It has a lot of possible ways it can continue its search domination. It's way too early to say that Google is in trouble. But that does not mean it can ignore it.
Technically, search isn’t free. It’s paid for by monetizing your data and ads. You also pay by having worse search results to support Google’s other monetization strategies through vague partnerships.
In part, ChatGPT is really good right now because it isn’t constrained by maximizing profits yet. That will change
In part, ChatGPT is really good right now because it isn’t constrained by maximizing profits yet. That will change
I’ll happily pay for a pro version of chatGPT.
Just ad advertisers subsidize Google search, pro users can subsidize free chatGPT users.
It’s not a revolutionary idea. Every SaaS with a free plan works on the same principle.
Just ad advertisers subsidize Google search, pro users can subsidize free chatGPT users.
It’s not a revolutionary idea. Every SaaS with a free plan works on the same principle.
I will happily pay for ChatGPT if they can give me a consumer version around the price of Netflix a month. I wouldn't pay for whatever it is Googles doing right now though.
Flagged. Buchheit himself says this is not at all what he was saying. https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/1620553998293143552
Most of my Google searches return AI-generated spam anyway. Might as well go straight to the source.
Maybe it would but they will try to monetize chatGPT is such a way it will kill the utility.
This seems to be taking this Twitter thread https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/1598434161332981760 and putting a spin on it that doesn't really align with what was actually said.