Amnesty International criticised for using AI-generated images(theguardian.com)
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Amnesty International criticised for using AI-generated images
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/02/amnesty-international-ai-generated-images-criticism
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Of all the silly outcomes from recent AI development I was predicting, human rights organizations using fake AI generated images of injustice to manufacture emotionally driven support for them wasn't on the list. Excited to watch the next riots in the US be sparked from an AI generated video of _Racism_.
Amnesty International is primarily an advertisement and donation collection business. Most of your donations go straight into advertisements and collecting more donations. Collectors aren't volunteers but hired professional collection agencies/con-artists trained to guilt people out of their money.
AI using AI for misrepresentations fits my very low opinion of them.
AI using AI for misrepresentations fits my very low opinion of them.
What percentage of its budget does Amnesty International put into advertising, and is it unusually high for charities?
I mean, I'm all for effective altruism, for giving money to charities the charities that help the most people with it with the lowest overhead, and for doing your research before deciding who you donate to (I recommend GiveWell as a starting point); but "hiring PR agents to solicit donations" is hardly unique to Amnesty.
I mean, I'm all for effective altruism, for giving money to charities the charities that help the most people with it with the lowest overhead, and for doing your research before deciding who you donate to (I recommend GiveWell as a starting point); but "hiring PR agents to solicit donations" is hardly unique to Amnesty.
From https://www.amnesty.org/en/2021-global-financial-report/
> 2021 was a record-breaking year with a total fundraising income of €357m.
And
> The largest proportion of the movement’s programme expenditure €26.4m (35%) was spent towards Goal One.
And
> 45% of total income spent on Human rights research, advocacy, campaigning, raising awareness and education
So ~20% (75m of 357m) was actually spent on real work, assuming everything reached end beneficiaries.
Interesting way of showing 45% of expenditure clubbing multiple heads, while showing 2% expenditure on "Maintaining our democratic system of governance".
> 2021 was a record-breaking year with a total fundraising income of €357m.
And
> The largest proportion of the movement’s programme expenditure €26.4m (35%) was spent towards Goal One.
And
> 45% of total income spent on Human rights research, advocacy, campaigning, raising awareness and education
So ~20% (75m of 357m) was actually spent on real work, assuming everything reached end beneficiaries.
Interesting way of showing 45% of expenditure clubbing multiple heads, while showing 2% expenditure on "Maintaining our democratic system of governance".
I'm not sure your math holds up, though.
Among other things, it sounds like their income was higher than their expenditures, eg that they had some money left at the end of the year; so your "75m of 375m" ratio isn't quite right.
Maybe I missed something.
Among other things, it sounds like their income was higher than their expenditures, eg that they had some money left at the end of the year; so your "75m of 375m" ratio isn't quite right.
Maybe I missed something.
~ for approximately.
Idea was not to audit records but provide an approximation of how much is spent on the stated objectives.
And even 20% is probably very high, because I would guess people working on those would be paid some salary/ honorarium, and that also would be included in this expense.
And even 20% is probably very high, because I would guess people working on those would be paid some salary/ honorarium, and that also would be included in this expense.
Yikes, only 20% going to actual end beneficiaries is pretty low.
It is not silly. It feels almost criminal.
And kind of confirms everything is just business now a days...
You should watch Poverty Inc.. It's a 2014 documentary about the big business of... fighting poverty; which ironically would go out of business if poverty ceased. I don't agree with all the statements or conclusions but it's still eye-opening and dystopian.
These types of organizations have been faking images to gain sympathy since the dawn of photography, but now it just takes a person and a prompt, instead of an entire production team.
I was honestly expecting AI generated porn to be a bigger thing right now. But I guess it’s still early.
I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs.
It’s already happening with the writers guild…
It’s already happening with the writers guild…
> I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs.
Porn already, for 95%+ of performers, pays terribly. Maybe one or two grand at best per "job" due to rampant piracy, ad-blocking, and the fact that nobody wants it on their credit card statement, and not everyone wants to figure out Bitcoin.
They hardly have the capital to start a union, or pay dues. But if AI porn takes off, those earnings will turn porn into purely a "because you want to" business. Probably not a bad thing considering the exploitative aspect in my opinion.
Porn already, for 95%+ of performers, pays terribly. Maybe one or two grand at best per "job" due to rampant piracy, ad-blocking, and the fact that nobody wants it on their credit card statement, and not everyone wants to figure out Bitcoin.
They hardly have the capital to start a union, or pay dues. But if AI porn takes off, those earnings will turn porn into purely a "because you want to" business. Probably not a bad thing considering the exploitative aspect in my opinion.
Perhaps Ethical Partners Capital / Mindgeek (which owns 90%+ of all porn sites) will create the union to ensure a stable flow of content. They’ve already taken steps to remove unverified user generated content due to abuse / misuse. Which killed the small time creators and gave the big production studios more screen time.
I actually see a different future.
Even with Identity Verification, there's always the risk that someone will be trafficked, verified as a performer, and then later escape their trafficker, file a lawsuit, and win/achieve a settlement. Which has (allegedly) happened multiple times, at least with pending lawsuits.
What's safer than Identity Verification? AI-generated porn. Completely "ethically" sourced, with no humans involved to potentially get hurt. Infinite variety, instantly customizable to everyone's own preferences, and (theoretically) truly endless in style and form. Also, it kills one of the biggest secular arguments against porn: "If nobody could possibly be trafficked or underage, what's the problem again, outside of your religious arguments?"
The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. More variety and lower risk? They never cared about their "performers" before, they are a liability that is currently just a cost of doing business. But if they aren't required for the business, they'll be dropped like a hot potato. Assuming porn companies would be concerned about morality is a mistake by any definition.
I would not be surprised, at all, if 10-20 years from now, the only porn on PornHub is a back catalog of AI-generated porn; with a subscription available for generating new porn to your preferences. After all, there is perhaps nothing that has more visual training data available for developing an AI against than porn.
Even with Identity Verification, there's always the risk that someone will be trafficked, verified as a performer, and then later escape their trafficker, file a lawsuit, and win/achieve a settlement. Which has (allegedly) happened multiple times, at least with pending lawsuits.
What's safer than Identity Verification? AI-generated porn. Completely "ethically" sourced, with no humans involved to potentially get hurt. Infinite variety, instantly customizable to everyone's own preferences, and (theoretically) truly endless in style and form. Also, it kills one of the biggest secular arguments against porn: "If nobody could possibly be trafficked or underage, what's the problem again, outside of your religious arguments?"
The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. More variety and lower risk? They never cared about their "performers" before, they are a liability that is currently just a cost of doing business. But if they aren't required for the business, they'll be dropped like a hot potato. Assuming porn companies would be concerned about morality is a mistake by any definition.
I would not be surprised, at all, if 10-20 years from now, the only porn on PornHub is a back catalog of AI-generated porn; with a subscription available for generating new porn to your preferences. After all, there is perhaps nothing that has more visual training data available for developing an AI against than porn.
The crazy part of AI generated porn is that you can base it off of actual people. And not just famous people, it can’t really avoid regulation in that context.
That makes sense for the most part.
> The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features.
MindGeek would just buyout said company. MindGeek has practically a monopoly on porn and porn sites.
https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce677114158...
> The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features.
MindGeek would just buyout said company. MindGeek has practically a monopoly on porn and porn sites.
https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce677114158...
All the extra legs, fingers, and other appendages flickering into existence would probably be a serious turn-off for most of the audience.
Twitter post with the images (the original postings were removed by Amnesty International): https://twitter.com/shahselbe/status/1652679528660049920?ref...
The captions make them worse somehow. Like the images are supposed to underscore the point, but then they're fake? Such a weird choice all around by Amnesty International.
The captions make them worse somehow. Like the images are supposed to underscore the point, but then they're fake? Such a weird choice all around by Amnesty International.
OT, but couldn't help but smirk at the top comment:
> I used to donate money every year to AI but will never do in future.
Took me a moment to parse AI as Amnesty International...
> I used to donate money every year to AI but will never do in future.
Took me a moment to parse AI as Amnesty International...
The first one seems problematic. The second two seem more obviously not real, and more akin to someone drawing an illustration imo.
Without all those tracking params https://twitter.com/shahselbe/status/1652679528660049920 and a nitter instance https://nitter.1d4.us/shahselbe/status/1652679528660049920
Also
> insulted women
The highest crime!
[EDIT] Archive of guardian link https://archive.is/4RSIb
Also
> insulted women
The highest crime!
[EDIT] Archive of guardian link https://archive.is/4RSIb
> raped and insulted women
Not sure why you're intentionally clipping the full context.
Not sure why you're intentionally clipping the full context.
Because rape is bad but insults are not.
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Frankly I thought worse, based on the only image in the Guardian article. That first one can be mistaken for a real photo; the other two are very clearly illustrations. The caption makes things clear anyway, removing any suspicion of attempted deception. Still, not the best judgement.
The excuse is partially egregious, as if the mosaic filter doesn't exist. Can't shake the feeling the marketing team just didn't find any of the real images powerful enough. Probably had a bad conversion rate to donations in the focus group.
Surely a non-profit like this their number 1 priority should be accuracy and truth in the harm/crimes they are reporting. But nah its not about any of that is it.
Surely a non-profit like this their number 1 priority should be accuracy and truth in the harm/crimes they are reporting. But nah its not about any of that is it.
> Surely a non-profit like this their number 1 priority should be accuracy and truth
I know a number of people in the non-profit space. Some acquire a belief that the end justifies the means, and therefore it’s okay to push the ethical limits as long as it’s for a good cause. They believe their own cause is good, naturally, so fundraising pushes can become a slippery slope of bending the rules.
I know a number of people in the non-profit space. Some acquire a belief that the end justifies the means, and therefore it’s okay to push the ethical limits as long as it’s for a good cause. They believe their own cause is good, naturally, so fundraising pushes can become a slippery slope of bending the rules.
Amnesty International accused Ukrainian armed forces of endangering Ukrainian civilians with their defense tactics. And then they (A.I.) covered up the report that found significant problems with their reasoning. So... no, they aren't very concerned with accuracy or truth.
https://eeditionnytimes.pressreader.com/article/281814288181...
https://eeditionnytimes.pressreader.com/article/281814288181...
You should see how long their Wikipedia page about controversies involving them is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International#Criticis...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_Internati...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International#Criticis...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_Internati...
Non-profits have strong incentives to be greedy.
Thay the money goes to employees rather than shareholders is at least as motivating.
Thay the money goes to employees rather than shareholders is at least as motivating.
Amnesty International seems to morphing from a well respected NGO into a partisan political movement https://www.politico.eu/article/amnesty-ukraine-report-wrong...
I don't think that's remotely new. They were always a bit out there, and now hyperpartisans have taken oven even places like ACLU.
That said, I don't think this changes anything. Someone was a bit lazy or arguably over-dramatic. I don't see it as some egregious violation of public trust. Even with real pictures, they would have been cherry picked for effect.
That said, I don't think this changes anything. Someone was a bit lazy or arguably over-dramatic. I don't see it as some egregious violation of public trust. Even with real pictures, they would have been cherry picked for effect.
Disagree on your second point. There's a very clear distinction between reporting the facts on the ground and literally making photos up.
Aren't we talking about some graphics in a promotional campaign? I didn't interpret this as "reporting".
That's not what this report claims...
posting images generated by artificial intelligence in order to promote their reports on social media
If they wanted to use AI-images, they could have used any number of filters/effects to reduce the phot0-realism and make it clear the images were illustrations (vs "photos").
If they wanted to use AI-images, they could have used any number of filters/effects to reduce the phot0-realism and make it clear the images were illustrations (vs "photos").
Well that would be relevant if they'd demonstrated any interest in actually reporting facts on the ground correctly.
I think hyperpartisans overstates the case with the ACLU. Partisans might be fairer. The ACLU has historically defended everybody, including literal Nazis. They decided to exercise judgement in deciding who to support because someone died who might not have if not for their action[1].
[1]: The chain of causation is that Charlottesville wants to unconstitutionally limit the Unite the Right protest, ACLU threatens litigation, protest goes ahead, protest supporter kills protest opponent. Obviously the ACLU isn't the main one responsible, but I don't think it was crazy for this to prompt reevaluation.
[1]: The chain of causation is that Charlottesville wants to unconstitutionally limit the Unite the Right protest, ACLU threatens litigation, protest goes ahead, protest supporter kills protest opponent. Obviously the ACLU isn't the main one responsible, but I don't think it was crazy for this to prompt reevaluation.
I don't remember the exact quote and the origin, but it's along the lines of
"I wish had I known that the people fighting the power were actually just fighting for the power."
"I wish had I known that the people fighting the power were actually just fighting for the power."
It's always been a campaigning organisation. Supporting human rights has always been an immensely controversial position in many countries. Even the campaign to free Nelson Mandela wasn't universally popular at the time.
And in fact at one point Amnesty International withdrew support for Mandela, because he wouldn't renounce violence. Which is also of course controversial -- at this point it looks not to their credit to most people? There is no "non-political" choice, no "non-political" way to oppose violation of human rights by states.
Always was that from it's very founding myth
The thing is that, there's no way to defend human rights without it being "political" and seen as partisan. There are always powerful political forces not wanting to recognize human rights violations as human rights violations, or they wouldn't need organized opposition in the first place.
I'm pretty sure Amnesty International has been accused of being a partisan political movement for as long as it's existed, by those who don't like what it's critisizing.
I'm pretty sure Amnesty International has been accused of being a partisan political movement for as long as it's existed, by those who don't like what it's critisizing.
It's similar to the people who have come out of the woodwork against the ACLU now that more than just the vague governmental powers that be oppose the liberties they're fighting for.
If you ever thought they weren't political it's because you weren't part of the groups they were fighting.
If you ever thought they weren't political it's because you weren't part of the groups they were fighting.
Read the link I posted and tell me whose human rights they were standing up for in their dodgy report
Amnesty International operates consistently using a framework of international laws of war and human rights standards, applying them equally to all countries.
Or at least that's their goal, certainly sometimes they have failed, because of biases. Is this one of those times?
The article you posted says that Amnesty says international laws and standards of war say you should not put military bases in residential areas. Have they been consistent at calling this out for all countries? I think so? Are these in fact standards under international human rights laws? I think so?
So this is not a departure for how Amnesty usually operates.
People often think that such laws and standards ought not to apply to the side "in the right"; or that they ought not to apply when the side in the right needs to violate them in order to win. Or that a given standard is wrong and should not be considered part of international law and human rights standard. Or you can think that the framework of international law is unrealistic and pointless and isn't even the right framework. In general, or in this case.
Some of these may be reasonable positions. But Amnesty has always operated from that framework, and has consistently critisized any side that puts military equipment in residential areas.
So, it's possible they made a mistake here in some way, but it's in a way that is pretty consistent with how they have behaved for decades and how they do things. So I don't see any reason to say they have "morphed", and that they are now "partisan" in a way they weren't before. Their theory is that they *avoid* being partisan by critiquing both sides of a military conflict to the same standard, you can disagree with this stance, but I don't see any reason to think they acted from "partisan" motivation rather than from trying to stick to their usual way of doing things. The complaint seems to be that some people wanted them to be partisan on the part of Ukraine (which may be reasonable), while they tried to apply same standards to Ukraine and Russia. There is no "morphing", this is what they do. You can think what they do is the totally wrong approach, for any number of reasons -- but it's not new.
Or at least that's their goal, certainly sometimes they have failed, because of biases. Is this one of those times?
The article you posted says that Amnesty says international laws and standards of war say you should not put military bases in residential areas. Have they been consistent at calling this out for all countries? I think so? Are these in fact standards under international human rights laws? I think so?
So this is not a departure for how Amnesty usually operates.
People often think that such laws and standards ought not to apply to the side "in the right"; or that they ought not to apply when the side in the right needs to violate them in order to win. Or that a given standard is wrong and should not be considered part of international law and human rights standard. Or you can think that the framework of international law is unrealistic and pointless and isn't even the right framework. In general, or in this case.
Some of these may be reasonable positions. But Amnesty has always operated from that framework, and has consistently critisized any side that puts military equipment in residential areas.
So, it's possible they made a mistake here in some way, but it's in a way that is pretty consistent with how they have behaved for decades and how they do things. So I don't see any reason to say they have "morphed", and that they are now "partisan" in a way they weren't before. Their theory is that they *avoid* being partisan by critiquing both sides of a military conflict to the same standard, you can disagree with this stance, but I don't see any reason to think they acted from "partisan" motivation rather than from trying to stick to their usual way of doing things. The complaint seems to be that some people wanted them to be partisan on the part of Ukraine (which may be reasonable), while they tried to apply same standards to Ukraine and Russia. There is no "morphing", this is what they do. You can think what they do is the totally wrong approach, for any number of reasons -- but it's not new.
They were invaded! How do you not put military equipment in a residential area that is being invaded. Utter lunacy.
That ship sailed decades ago, as is the case with thousands of British charities
Interested to hear your thoughts on who else makes the list
not British but Greenpeace and Amnesty were both charities I reverred growing up, before getting to know them from the inside
There are unknowable numbers of fake charities amongst the 381723 currently registered, including highly exploitative charities, activists groups masquerading as charities, personal enrichment scams and so on.
I can think of many examples. A recent fun one was Ngozi Fulani's (of false allegations of racism) charity Sistah Space. Exposed using only publicly available information as a total grifting sham. Remember Camila Batmanghelidjh? There are god knows how many more like those two.
Hope Not Hate - a labour party activist controlled disinformation & propaganda generation entity run as a Ltd funded entirely by a special purpose charity entity bankrolled by people like Sigrid Rowsing. You will note their "work" receives almost not interaction on social media - which is the majority of their raison d'être
There are quite literally hundreds of "local" charities in places like Tower Hamlets that don't come close to meeting an normal persons definition of charity. They simply funnel money, often from local councils, to themselves.
I've also attempted to report a charity before here in the UK. The CC refused to accept my anonymous info and if my information didn't lead to a prosecution (and had to sign a document to this effect) that i would be prosecuted myself. That was some years ago, so the process may be different.
A great many charities raise money in a charity entity, then funnel all that money to a small Ltd controlled by a small number of people. The oversight, and legislation are appalling.
There are a number of "charities" in the UK alone claiming to be tackling "long covid".
Who knows how many evangelical church scams there are enriching some classic conman preacher.
I can think of many examples. A recent fun one was Ngozi Fulani's (of false allegations of racism) charity Sistah Space. Exposed using only publicly available information as a total grifting sham. Remember Camila Batmanghelidjh? There are god knows how many more like those two.
Hope Not Hate - a labour party activist controlled disinformation & propaganda generation entity run as a Ltd funded entirely by a special purpose charity entity bankrolled by people like Sigrid Rowsing. You will note their "work" receives almost not interaction on social media - which is the majority of their raison d'être
There are quite literally hundreds of "local" charities in places like Tower Hamlets that don't come close to meeting an normal persons definition of charity. They simply funnel money, often from local councils, to themselves.
I've also attempted to report a charity before here in the UK. The CC refused to accept my anonymous info and if my information didn't lead to a prosecution (and had to sign a document to this effect) that i would be prosecuted myself. That was some years ago, so the process may be different.
A great many charities raise money in a charity entity, then funnel all that money to a small Ltd controlled by a small number of people. The oversight, and legislation are appalling.
There are a number of "charities" in the UK alone claiming to be tackling "long covid".
Who knows how many evangelical church scams there are enriching some classic conman preacher.
Yes I remember Batmanghelidjh, there's been a tendency within the public sector especially of being afraid of offending anyone to the point of tacitly allowing massive grifting and fraud.
I remember once being on a video call with a quasi-VC but for social enterprises and I asked what I thought to be an entirely banal question: "how do you measure the effectiveness of the organisations you fund and ensure that they're not misappropriating funds?" I may as well have spat in their tea, the video call ended soon afterwards!
I remember once being on a video call with a quasi-VC but for social enterprises and I asked what I thought to be an entirely banal question: "how do you measure the effectiveness of the organisations you fund and ensure that they're not misappropriating funds?" I may as well have spat in their tea, the video call ended soon afterwards!
That anecdote rings a lot of bells for me even in business and investing. Alas a vaguely cynical person can be proven right in an era of pseudo babble.
Some very very modest achievements i might have had came in a room of people where I politely, professionally, pointed out amidst a silence that the offer they were about to buy was based on quicksand.
If i had done so rudely they would have spent the money and fired me
Some very very modest achievements i might have had came in a room of people where I politely, professionally, pointed out amidst a silence that the offer they were about to buy was based on quicksand.
If i had done so rudely they would have spent the money and fired me
The article you link seems to be criticizing it for their criticism of Ukraine for human rights abuses. It has been documenting what has been happening in Ukraine for a long time, in the Donbas and Luhansk regions. It has significantly reduced it in the past few years.
It's a faux agency used for corrupt western influence in the guise of "human rights". India banned it for good reasons.
It's a faux agency used for corrupt western influence in the guise of "human rights". India banned it for good reasons.
> It has been documenting what has been happening in Ukraine for a long time, in the Donbas and Luhansk regions.
Just so we're all clear — what has been happening in Ukraine for a long time is russian soldiers have been using force to try to annex Ukrainian territory.
The kremlin denied this for the better part of a decade, but have recently admitted that those little green men were actually russian soldiers.
Amnesty International don't get even half the criticism they deserve.
Just so we're all clear — what has been happening in Ukraine for a long time is russian soldiers have been using force to try to annex Ukrainian territory.
The kremlin denied this for the better part of a decade, but have recently admitted that those little green men were actually russian soldiers.
Amnesty International don't get even half the criticism they deserve.
AI didn't criticize actual human rights abuses by Ukraine. They criticized Ukraine using abandoned civilian infrastructure as military bases near the frontlines (empty schools, malls etc).
The best possible interpretation is that it was hopelessly naive ("why don't they just camp in a empty field so Russia can kill them more precisely?") but more likely they tried to both-sides a war which simply does not have two valid sides.
The best possible interpretation is that it was hopelessly naive ("why don't they just camp in a empty field so Russia can kill them more precisely?") but more likely they tried to both-sides a war which simply does not have two valid sides.
This makes me think interns or other low paid, less seasoned staff are writing these articles and opted to just gen up an image rather than have no image, or use an internal image bank or purchase an actual picture or actually have photographers covering the event.
Has a definite “only write what I can google” vibe to it and is not acceptable for such a well funded organization.
Has a definite “only write what I can google” vibe to it and is not acceptable for such a well funded organization.
A good rule of thumb is that people or institutions fabricate evidence because they are making claims that are both false and harmful.
Another good rule of thumb is that the evidence which is proven to be fabricated is not the only evidence that was fabricated, and not the only situation in which it was.
We rely a great deal on “appeal to authority”, this organization being one of them. The epistemology of a lot of common belief breaks down very quickly once you start to see this. But if it goes too far, once the broken belief system affects the identity of the beholder, it reverts to blind faith and anger. We have a lot of Tooth Faries forced into our collective identity by school teachers.
Another good rule of thumb is that the evidence which is proven to be fabricated is not the only evidence that was fabricated, and not the only situation in which it was.
We rely a great deal on “appeal to authority”, this organization being one of them. The epistemology of a lot of common belief breaks down very quickly once you start to see this. But if it goes too far, once the broken belief system affects the identity of the beholder, it reverts to blind faith and anger. We have a lot of Tooth Faries forced into our collective identity by school teachers.
An unfortunate corollary is the ability of an organization to poison a shared well.
I have a lot of sympathy for the local folks in dangerous situations who took real risks to contribute to Amnesty reports. Amnesty's actions unfairly devalue their work.
I have a lot of sympathy for the local folks in dangerous situations who took real risks to contribute to Amnesty reports. Amnesty's actions unfairly devalue their work.
> A good rule of thumb is that people or institutions fabricate evidence because they are making claims that are both false and harmful.
Another good rule of thumb is to assume stupidity not malice.
Ultimately rules of thumbs are just that, and shouldn't be over relied on for things that matter.
Another good rule of thumb is to assume stupidity not malice.
Ultimately rules of thumbs are just that, and shouldn't be over relied on for things that matter.
Amnesty claims that it used the AI-generated images to protect the protesters, but since they risked their lives to protest in the streets in the first place, will they really thank Amnesty for saving their lives?
Yes they would. One of the protesters even talked about this in the article.
> Gareth Sella was blinded in his left eye when a police officer in Bogotá shot him with a rubber bullet at the protests. He argued that hiding the identity of protesters makes sense to protect them from ending up in jail on inflated charges. “As the UN has documented, the state has continued pursuing protesters and more than 100 are in jail, many with disproportionate sentences, such as terrorism, to make an example of them. Hiding our identities seems sensible to me given that two years on we continue living in the fear that we could be jailed at any moment or even that they come after us on the streets,” Sella said.
People in first world countries often underestimate just how dangerous political protests are in other parts of the world. It's not just about getting arrested or injured at the event itself, but about being identified and targeted many weeks afterwards. The protesters are certainly willing to risk a lot, but they are taking every step possible to not martyr themselves.
> Gareth Sella was blinded in his left eye when a police officer in Bogotá shot him with a rubber bullet at the protests. He argued that hiding the identity of protesters makes sense to protect them from ending up in jail on inflated charges. “As the UN has documented, the state has continued pursuing protesters and more than 100 are in jail, many with disproportionate sentences, such as terrorism, to make an example of them. Hiding our identities seems sensible to me given that two years on we continue living in the fear that we could be jailed at any moment or even that they come after us on the streets,” Sella said.
People in first world countries often underestimate just how dangerous political protests are in other parts of the world. It's not just about getting arrested or injured at the event itself, but about being identified and targeted many weeks afterwards. The protesters are certainly willing to risk a lot, but they are taking every step possible to not martyr themselves.
Also what the hell? Just blur their faces if that’s really the point.
Considering what happened in Hong Kong, blurring faces definitely does not protect you from being recognised considering the resources that the government can use.
Amnesty International requested the freedom of a criminal who stole millions of dollars from poor people, originally meant for social housing. Milagros Sala, found guilty. That organization is a joke.
Honestly... those images are openly marked as generated. I don't see too much trouble with this. If they tried to pretend they're real, that would be totally fucked up, yes.
I agree. Two of those look (to me) more like illustrations than photographs anyway, so I see no problem with AI using AI for them.
Hum... They should have made the caption larger. And everything around it would be better if they made them a sketch or any kind of impressionist transformation.
But yeah, it's a hole bunch of nothing here. Nobody was lying or trying to mislead.
But yeah, it's a hole bunch of nothing here. Nobody was lying or trying to mislead.
If the core of your product is trust, to get donations for you doing the right thing, it is mind boggling you would use AI-generated images.
Okay but
> To avoid misleading the public, the images included text stating that they were produced by AI.
So doesn’t this really only impact the people… careless enough not to RTFA?
And then we get this hackneyed parting shot, parroting common myth/misconception about AI generated images:
> AI-generated images stitch together photographs previously taken by humans to create new ones…
Which, no, that makes it sounds like a collage,
> …raising questions of plagiarism and in photojournalism and the industry’s future. Torres said Amnesty’s use of AI images was an insult to the photojournalists who cover protests from the frontline.
“Won’t someone please think of the photojournalists!”
I am not impressed with this article.
> To avoid misleading the public, the images included text stating that they were produced by AI.
So doesn’t this really only impact the people… careless enough not to RTFA?
And then we get this hackneyed parting shot, parroting common myth/misconception about AI generated images:
> AI-generated images stitch together photographs previously taken by humans to create new ones…
Which, no, that makes it sounds like a collage,
> …raising questions of plagiarism and in photojournalism and the industry’s future. Torres said Amnesty’s use of AI images was an insult to the photojournalists who cover protests from the frontline.
“Won’t someone please think of the photojournalists!”
I am not impressed with this article.
I wonder why they would opt to use fake generated images while real suffering in the world on these issues is very documented in form of horrible images already. Isn't that already enough for them?
Their concern is to not put the people in the photos at risk of recriminations.
It seems to me that if this were an illustration by an artist no one would care. So it seems to me they should just use "in the style of".
It seems to me that if this were an illustration by an artist no one would care. So it seems to me they should just use "in the style of".
I can't imagine how anyone working for Amnesty International could not have realized what a terrible idea this is. It makes me lose a lot of respect for the organization, such bad judgement.
I lost respect from Amnesty International after they denounced the President of El Salvador for the mass arrests and detention of gang members. They said they were guilty of "massive human rights violations" and said the president "engulf[ed] the country in a human rights crisis."
Which... sure, there might be human rights violations, I don't necessarily doubt there are innocent people caught in the crossfire. However, what they don't mention was that El Salvador had a murder rate as high as 103 per 100K in 2015, the highest murder rate in the world by country by almost double the next highest. Is that not a human rights crisis worth mentioning? It was so bad that BBC reporters were seeing dead bodies in the streets.
After the crackdowns (and, if you watch El Salvador's video, easily 90%+ of prisoners in their TCC have visible gang tattoos on them), they are now sitting at a murder rate of 8 per 100K. Not surprisingly, the president has a 90%+ approval rate.
That's what I don't get Amnesty International. From 103 to 8 per 100K. Thousands and thousands of lives will be saved every year. Is that worth the risk of a some innocent people with obvious gang tattoos being swept up in it? I'd say... yes, because we don't live in a perfect world, and El Salvador was quite literally in a state of war. But Amnesty International is more focused on their story than the people who obtained freedom from having to live in one of the most dangerous countries on earth. Think only about potential innocent victims in prison, but the 6,500 people who were murdered in a single year shouldn't be considered victims in the equation. I think it's pretty reasonable to say that, if there is a crackdown that arrests 60,000 (alleged) gang members, and has (let's say, hypothetically) 5,000 people innocent arrested (which, from the video, I think is high, but let's just say), but results in over 6,500+ lives saved every year (let alone countless rapes including of children and other crimes), there's a just cause.
I would have had much more respect for them, and I think the people of El Salvador would have had more respect for them, if they had accepted the crackdowns as a necessary evil under desperate circumstances; and then worked to identify and free anyone incorrectly swept up in the arrests. They could have done that - they could have started working hard to free the actually innocent, on a case-by-case basis. Instead they just denounced the whole thing... which, surprise, hasn't done anything. It definitely makes them feel good, even if it does literally nothing.
Which... sure, there might be human rights violations, I don't necessarily doubt there are innocent people caught in the crossfire. However, what they don't mention was that El Salvador had a murder rate as high as 103 per 100K in 2015, the highest murder rate in the world by country by almost double the next highest. Is that not a human rights crisis worth mentioning? It was so bad that BBC reporters were seeing dead bodies in the streets.
After the crackdowns (and, if you watch El Salvador's video, easily 90%+ of prisoners in their TCC have visible gang tattoos on them), they are now sitting at a murder rate of 8 per 100K. Not surprisingly, the president has a 90%+ approval rate.
That's what I don't get Amnesty International. From 103 to 8 per 100K. Thousands and thousands of lives will be saved every year. Is that worth the risk of a some innocent people with obvious gang tattoos being swept up in it? I'd say... yes, because we don't live in a perfect world, and El Salvador was quite literally in a state of war. But Amnesty International is more focused on their story than the people who obtained freedom from having to live in one of the most dangerous countries on earth. Think only about potential innocent victims in prison, but the 6,500 people who were murdered in a single year shouldn't be considered victims in the equation. I think it's pretty reasonable to say that, if there is a crackdown that arrests 60,000 (alleged) gang members, and has (let's say, hypothetically) 5,000 people innocent arrested (which, from the video, I think is high, but let's just say), but results in over 6,500+ lives saved every year (let alone countless rapes including of children and other crimes), there's a just cause.
I would have had much more respect for them, and I think the people of El Salvador would have had more respect for them, if they had accepted the crackdowns as a necessary evil under desperate circumstances; and then worked to identify and free anyone incorrectly swept up in the arrests. They could have done that - they could have started working hard to free the actually innocent, on a case-by-case basis. Instead they just denounced the whole thing... which, surprise, hasn't done anything. It definitely makes them feel good, even if it does literally nothing.
It seems kinda obvious why a human rights organization isn't signing up for your "but is it really so bad if we ignore the human rights of people we say are criminals? What's a little torture if its criminals?" line, but instead calls out human rights violations.
I'm saying that where they lost me, is that they carefully consider the human rights of the criminal, but completely ignore the human rights of the innocent, including the right to live without being murdered. They had literally no idea on how to solve the problem outside of crackdowns. El Salvador had already tried rehabilitation for two decades in various forms, and had even sent MS-13 $25 million as part of a deal in 2014 in the hopes they would stop killing people; but they still denounced the crackdown. What else was El Salvador to do? Just continue multiple failed rehabilitation strategies and let criminals kill people openly in the streets because "human rights" requires it?
I once volunteered as a special advocate for foster children, and went through 3 months of training. During training, I saw numerous PR/awareness/fundraising posters about the work that the organization was doing. Given that this was a program focused on foster-children, the posters featured numerous children. At the end of the training, I was told that for privacy reasons, pictures should never ever be posted publicly (social media etc) of any foster child that identifies them as a foster child. Notably, this policy applied even to the organization's own posters. Not a single child in their poster is a foster child - that would have violated their privacy policy. The children in all their posters are just random kids.
We all laughed when we learnt this, but didn't think it was a big deal. Their privacy policy makes a ton of sense - if I was a foster child, I wouldn't want that to be advertised publicly. And the organization would have hamstrung itself if none of their posters featured any children. People don't donate or volunteer based on facts and logic. They do it based on empathy. Not having children's pictures at all, or only blurred photos, would be disastrous for fundraising and getting the foster children their much needed resources.
To be clear, I do not endorse lying at all. Lying makes things much worse in the long run. But the above non-profit wasn't lying in any sense. They simply showed photos of average looking kids in neutral settings, displaying neutral expressions. There was no misinformation in any of their photos. I haven't met a single donor to date who felt lied to or betrayed by their posters.
I can see the parallels between what Amnesty Intl did and the above. They have a very credible reason for not using real photos. The people protesting themselves have requested hiding their identities to avoid life-changing persecution. And Amnesty states that they explicitly labelled their images as having been produced by AI. They have clearly been acting in good faith.
In an ideal world, non-profits wouldn't need to rely on AI generated images... and people wouldn't require pictures to mobilize and get involved. But let's be realistic - there's minimal rationality in people's engagement with non-profits. I skim through the news everyday, and didn't even know there were protests happening in Colombia. The only possible way for organizations like Amnesty International to get their message out there is by using attention-grabbing images. And as long as they make a good faith effort to portray them realistically and label their images as AI-generated, I don't have a problem with it.
> To avoid misleading the public, the images included text stating that they were produced by AI.
> Gareth Sella was blinded in his left eye when a police officer in Bogotá shot him with a rubber bullet at the protests. He argued that hiding the identity of protesters makes sense to protect them from ending up in jail on inflated charges. “As the UN has documented, the state has continued pursuing protesters and more than 100 are in jail, many with disproportionate sentences, such as terrorism, to make an example of them. Hiding our identities seems sensible to me given that two years on we continue living in the fear that we could be jailed at any moment or even that they come after us on the streets,” Sella said.
We all laughed when we learnt this, but didn't think it was a big deal. Their privacy policy makes a ton of sense - if I was a foster child, I wouldn't want that to be advertised publicly. And the organization would have hamstrung itself if none of their posters featured any children. People don't donate or volunteer based on facts and logic. They do it based on empathy. Not having children's pictures at all, or only blurred photos, would be disastrous for fundraising and getting the foster children their much needed resources.
To be clear, I do not endorse lying at all. Lying makes things much worse in the long run. But the above non-profit wasn't lying in any sense. They simply showed photos of average looking kids in neutral settings, displaying neutral expressions. There was no misinformation in any of their photos. I haven't met a single donor to date who felt lied to or betrayed by their posters.
I can see the parallels between what Amnesty Intl did and the above. They have a very credible reason for not using real photos. The people protesting themselves have requested hiding their identities to avoid life-changing persecution. And Amnesty states that they explicitly labelled their images as having been produced by AI. They have clearly been acting in good faith.
In an ideal world, non-profits wouldn't need to rely on AI generated images... and people wouldn't require pictures to mobilize and get involved. But let's be realistic - there's minimal rationality in people's engagement with non-profits. I skim through the news everyday, and didn't even know there were protests happening in Colombia. The only possible way for organizations like Amnesty International to get their message out there is by using attention-grabbing images. And as long as they make a good faith effort to portray them realistically and label their images as AI-generated, I don't have a problem with it.
> To avoid misleading the public, the images included text stating that they were produced by AI.
> Gareth Sella was blinded in his left eye when a police officer in Bogotá shot him with a rubber bullet at the protests. He argued that hiding the identity of protesters makes sense to protect them from ending up in jail on inflated charges. “As the UN has documented, the state has continued pursuing protesters and more than 100 are in jail, many with disproportionate sentences, such as terrorism, to make an example of them. Hiding our identities seems sensible to me given that two years on we continue living in the fear that we could be jailed at any moment or even that they come after us on the streets,” Sella said.
It's good to hear this perspective, thanks for sharing it.
One difference is that there is no controversy over whether foster children exist. And, as you say, they used neutral pictures of kids with neutral expressions -- what if they had instead used (staged) photos of kids in distress, to get more sympathy? (And still, nobody denies that foster kids in distress exist, but this already seems questionable, right?)
The things Amnesty highlights, some people want to challenge the fact that they happened, that they even exist, or happened like Amnesty said, or were as bad as Amnesty said. Credibility as being honest and accurate in reporting on what happened is pretty crucial to Amnesty's ability to succeed at it's goals.
But perhaps the Amnesty staffers were thinking about it like you, and that it was the same. I don't think it is, at all.
Certainly they have no obligation to put people at risk by including pictures in which people can be identified. There are many options that are not using manufactured pictures, including pictures without visible faces or obscuring faces. Using real-looking but manufactured/staged pictures is a really bad choice. Even if it would get more attention or dollars or support than other choices, the consequences are disastrous for Amnesty's credibility at exposing things that some forces want to say didn't happen or weren't as bad as Amnesty says.
One difference is that there is no controversy over whether foster children exist. And, as you say, they used neutral pictures of kids with neutral expressions -- what if they had instead used (staged) photos of kids in distress, to get more sympathy? (And still, nobody denies that foster kids in distress exist, but this already seems questionable, right?)
The things Amnesty highlights, some people want to challenge the fact that they happened, that they even exist, or happened like Amnesty said, or were as bad as Amnesty said. Credibility as being honest and accurate in reporting on what happened is pretty crucial to Amnesty's ability to succeed at it's goals.
But perhaps the Amnesty staffers were thinking about it like you, and that it was the same. I don't think it is, at all.
Certainly they have no obligation to put people at risk by including pictures in which people can be identified. There are many options that are not using manufactured pictures, including pictures without visible faces or obscuring faces. Using real-looking but manufactured/staged pictures is a really bad choice. Even if it would get more attention or dollars or support than other choices, the consequences are disastrous for Amnesty's credibility at exposing things that some forces want to say didn't happen or weren't as bad as Amnesty says.
Maybe this is an attempt to pollute search results to get Amnesty International linked with articles about AI? They've got the same initials.
I love this theory but to be fair it’s giving the hip tech bro intern too much credit for an unjustified horrible decision.
There is hardly maths or hard science in AI.
This is high-school skill, don't be fooled.
This is high-school skill, don't be fooled.