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Your understanding of the economics is off here. Soda syrup is dirt cheap. A five gallon box of syrup costs between $40 and $75 and makes 30 GALLONS of soda. So the syrup costs the restaurant 10-20 cents per cup of soda that they charge 2-3 dollars for.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

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I'm not in favor of restricting soda, but I strongly contest the heroin example you're giving.

To call that "treatment" is really playing with the terms and shifting the goal posts. It's like saying that the treatment for gambling is to have unlimited money. You may be solving one problem, but you're not solving the central issue. Black-market heroin is particularly bad, but so is being addicted to opiates at all.

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That wasn't immigration. That was the dislocation of one people by another. 90% of Indians died shortly after first contact because of smallpox, which moved faster than the Europeans themselves did.

And of course, if the Indians had their informed choice, they would never have wanted Europeans to come.

But they didn't have the power to do anything about it. This world doesn't care about right and wrong, only weak and strong.

Edit:

Actually you're dead wrong. There was no immigration essentially from the start of the republic until the late 1800s, and again almost none between 1920 and 1950. And until the 60s, it was only from European societies for the most part.

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The ones who were engaged in tribal wars of conquest with each other before Europeans ever showed up?

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You need only look at the banlieues of Paris, full of second and third generation Middle Easterners who hate France and hate French values to prove my point.

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I'm sure it's the Europeans who feel very foolish right now, having taken in millions of refugees who don't share their values.

Not gonna happen here folks.

You're the one who will be shocked when Trump wins in a landslide in 2020.

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Great. It's about time that our immigration policy served our own self interests again. Taking people from the Middle East is a security nightmare and a cultural disaster. I don't want my country to be like France or the UK with burkas and honor killings everywhere. Or massive populations that are sympathetic with terrorists.

Immigration is about serving Anerica's interests, not the interests of those who would come here.

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I'm going to very amused as Google's "don't be evil" facade comes crumbling down, having lost their revolving door with the US government and protection from antitrust enforcement.

Google has a very small business, search & ads, that basically prints money. They then spend almost all of that money on unprofitable operations that crush competition by 1) setting the price-point for many services at free, 2) intercepting customers (e.g. Google Flight and Hotel bookings at the top of search results), and 3) poaching all of the best talent and wasting it away on these terrible side businesses.

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Yes, there does have to be a winner and a loser. Given that ISIS aims for a global caliphate and the destruction of the US and Israel, I sure hope you want them to lose...

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I can't put together a proof that we're the 'good' and they are 'bad' in some objective moral sense.

We have our vision for what we want for the world and our nation, they have theirs. It's better for us if we win.

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"It is better to be feared than to be loved, if you cannot be both."

Muslims are the primary victims of terrorists groups. They would be very happy to be rid of the likes of ISIS and Al Qaeda.

>That's more or less how we got here in the first place.

I don't agree. We got here because Western institutions and ideas were causing dramatic and rapid social change in the Muslim world, and inspired a violent counter-reaction.

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It will only become easier and easier to do great harm to many people. And so there is no number of terrorists that is an acceptable risk.

We can't allow these savages to keep developing their capabilities, growing their numbers, and inspiring sympathizers around the world. The only option is to eradicate ISIS and similar groups from the face of the Earth. We must strike fear deep into the hearts of any who would think to do us harm.

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I'm highly amused that you start with "actually, no it's not", implying that you are going to disagree with my comment, because you don't actually address anything I said. Did you even read what I said?

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It doesn't sound like ad purchasers have much of a choice here.

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The fact that Obama wasn't as environmentalist as some would have liked doesn't change the fact that Trump is clearly much much less so.

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This is a silly argument. Trump and Clinton competed for the electoral college, not the popular vote. Which means that Trump spent a lot of time campaigning for one electoral vote in Maine and almost none in courting millions of people in California and New York. It's impossible to say what the outcome would have been if the popular vote would have mattered, because both campaigns would be run totally differently.

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Like it or not, increasing fossil fuel extraction and cutting environmental regulations is now the policy of the President of the United States. The public communications of the executive branch are under his authority and he's not just going to let the EPA run its public relations and releases contrary to his agenda.

Like others have pointed out, there are other ways the public can get the information. But it won't be the EPA running a press office counter to the President's.

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It shouldn't be an ad network's job to adjudicate truth, especially given Google's monopolistic position. They should stick to selling and reselling eyeballs and clicks, and regulating things directly material to that, e.g. deceitful ad placement.

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These critics don't understand what it means to get things done. It's becoming a meme at this point.

Media for the last year and a half: "Donald Trump will NOT be able to build the wall."

Just now, Donald Trump: "We will start IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION of a border wall."

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