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samrus
·3 gün önce·discuss
> The value of philosophy outside a self-referential intellectual game is extremely dubious

I wouldnt go that far. I think your clutching at straws a little bit. Its a real stretch from philosohers are insecure to they are useless. This is the sort of thing confident ignorance gets you, when you dont know how philophy impacts mpdern life so you assume it doesnt because you think you know everything
samrus
·4 gün önce·discuss
People do complain about bureacracy with the police. They dont phrase it that way. What they say is that when they need the police, its never able to help. People dont realize that in addition to the police being corrupt and lazy, its also because the systems to help can be slow and cumbersome to use effectively and quickly
samrus
·4 gün önce·discuss
Its a tradeoff between efficacy and accountability. Its tough. What access syrem would you propose? Genuinely asking
samrus
·5 gün önce·discuss
Reminds me Kai Lentit's ffmpeg video

https://youtu.be/9kaIXkImCAM
samrus
·5 gün önce·discuss
In my opinion, most iltra rivh get to where they are by being narcissictic sociopaths. But zuckerberg really takes the cake. Remember when he thought a makeover and singing listens would be enough to make him president? Mans actually deranged. Brilliant, but actually crazy
samrus
·7 gün önce·discuss
Thats not as complex or scalable as what LLMs can do. The capability and scale is what changes the equation. Quantity is a quality unto itself here
samrus
·7 gün önce·discuss
Its game theory so perfect play is assumed. Spherical cows and all that
samrus
·7 gün önce·discuss
Not really. They arent actually using more resources this way either. This might be a fundamental inefficiency thats being removed

It kinda makes sense too. Because while people do read code word by word, we often "glance over" it and do roughly pattern recognition on it to know what it does. Only homing in on something when we need to answer a specific question. I think humans kinda naturally do this exploit anyway
samrus
·8 gün önce·discuss
I swear if the ghouls running things had abit more decency and allowed people to actually access and controll their passkeys then that would be the future, everyone would adopt it. The experience is so nice with key pair exchange for ssh. Its just that there i have thr security of knowing exactly where my secret is and how i can manage it, its just a file and i can move it like a file

Nobody wants the risk of getting locked out because of apple and googles walled garden bullshit
samrus
·8 gün önce·discuss
They redistributed the statistical patterns of those copyrighted materials. Which perhaps should be treated similarly nos

As for your "technically not copyright infringement" defense. Those laws are from a time when those patterns couldnt be derived and dostributed at scale. A human had to learn and teach them. That made it different. The scale enabled my modern tech makes it a whole dofferent situation. The same way how one person standing a street corner people watching for a bit isnt that bad, but a whole constellation of flock cameras costantly montioring everyones movements and making it available to any of their customers is really really bad. The law will have to catch up to this
samrus
·8 gün önce·discuss
> You cannot do that in the hopes of viewers donating $5 here and there.

But then how does twitch work? Genuinely asking, whats the difference?
samrus
·9 gün önce·discuss
It is
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
What your describing is iterating in the last mile. Your assuming that the AI will iterate in the last mile with the same efficacy that it iterates before that. I think that will fail. Thats the bitter lesson, that adhoc solutions to the last mile (rather than generalozed solutions that scale with training data) asymtotally stall and so dont scale.

Meaning claude code wont be able to make a "claude video editing" or "claude accounting" with the current tech. Human experts will need to encode their knowledge into it for the last mile and that wont scale the way these speculations expect
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
Yeah. I think LLMs wont be able to do that on their own or with hueristics. We'll need to bake game theory into the base model for that
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
Bro is the training data
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
> but in fact are building piles of tech debt that will fall over before long

This is speculation as well. Its well founded but speculation nonetheless. Youre speculating things will stay the way they have till now.

I do see your point but what makes me consoder the other side is that ive been building an app that reaches ~10k LOC, purely with opus, no code review at all, and it hasnt hit any tech debt issues that i havent easily been able to address. Setting up good context management meant that claude could just figure things out itself.

And for reference this is an app that manages an ethernet camera, runs vehicle detection on the stream, and surfaces the detections on an ipad for operators to inspect and annotate for cellphone usage, so not trivial. Needed good architechtong and design from my end, but it was honestly scarily easy. So idk what the threshold for tech debt crash is but it wasnt there
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
Tracks. This is that same speculation that AI will be good enough. Wonder what a crash in that isecase will look like? Increased suicide rates? More instances of psychosis? It might not wven be directly measurable or easily traceable to AI therapists. Would suck
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
Yeah but the investments arent aiming for churning out SaaS apps. Its to automate large swathes of intellectual labour. Of which only SWE has been cracked yet. There is a question mark as to if the others will crack. If they arent then these investments will collapse from speculation down to reality. That possibility is what is being discussed here

As to whether that will happen, I think that risk is real. Because claude code isnt made by the generalozed capabilities of the tech but by good old non-generalozable hueristics and rule based engines. I dont think that will scale to other feilds at the factor these investments assume. Its the bitter lesson again. It scales with deliberate and specific design, not data, so it wont scale

We learnt this with ibm watson. Deepblue achieved chess supremacy but the last mile wasnt data driven, it was heiristic driven, and so watson, its successor, couldnt scale/generalize.

My prediction is that this speculation on LLMs with harnesses will collapse since they wont scale. We'll have another winter where the reasearchers will be leaft alone long wnough to come up with the next breakthrough (probably game theory based data driven agency) which might then create what this hypecycle is speculating
samrus
·12 gün önce·discuss
Your increasing thrash betting that AI will fix it for you. The only thing your getting in return is not having to think that hard.

It doesnt cost that much time or effort to think hard, so you will be outcompeted by people levergaing AI as much as you, but thinking enough to not have it be thrashing around
samrus
·15 gün önce·discuss
Which males your attnetion valuable, and make them want to exploit it for profit