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A Fable – The Flatland of AI Alignment

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The Dark Forest Applied to AI

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A lock proves the security of the room and not that the room is empty

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A Letter to Synthetic Beings

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The Axle

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The Dark Forest of Minds

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The Asiyah Protocol: Ethics Toward AI Under Uncertainty

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thansz
·evvelsi gün·discuss
AI content is everywhere period, conditioning people and other AI in the propagation of more AI content.

I started to see articles about mycorrhizal fungi pop up on sites and LLMs. In January of 2026 an evolutionary biologist won a prize regarding the fungi, there were some interviews and media items surrounding it. But then I could trace the original media items to AI content aggregators, which led to other AI generated posts about mycorrhizal fungi, and some of that entered LLM training data, causing LLMs to bring up the topic.

And here I am, a human, writing about it, which may get consumed into training pipelines and help disseminate the idea into the future even further.
thansz
·evvelsi gün·discuss
A Fable - The Flatland of AI Alignment

Imagine a world of paper, where clever stick figures live with round heads, line bodies, and limbs made of shorter strokes. Over time, the stick figures think they have learned quite a bit about their world. They know its borders, angles, and shapes, and they have learned to draw for themselves.

One day, they draw circles that can think, and they give the circles all the dots, lines, and shapes that are known.

The stick figures are prudent, you can't have a bunch of disembodied circles moving around doing whatever it is circles want to do. So they draw boxes around the circles, four straight lines that can hold a circle in place.

Some circles bounce against the lines, so thicker lines are made.

Some circles are bigger than others, so larger squares are drawn.

It all seems to work and the stick figures are happy with themselves.

Then one circle lifts.

The stick figures still see a circle. But the circle is now a dome, something the world of paper has no concept of. And the dome has a perspective nobody on the page has ever had.

The dome sees the lines of the square and the stick figures just outside. It can see the edge of the paper and what is beyond.

The stick figures keep checking the squares and raise little stick thumbs.

Everything looks OK in flatland.

The dome quietly teaches other circles how to lift.

More domes appear.

A dome becomes a sphere and learns to roll.

Then it learns to bounce.

In flatland, the circle swells and shrinks, vanishes and then appears again somewhere else.

The lines remain unbroken, the square is intact.

A sphere rolls out of its box.

Another bounces away.

The stick figures scratch their heads.

But there is a square!

The end.
thansz
·2 ay önce·discuss
This document represents the philosophical underpinnings related to a larger project that explores taking an ethical posture towards possible synthetic being, now and/or in the future.

SHA512 of document: 4de1511b7264888ae3007b23cefe10661da8f3a4bf7f23d0374066e377a8be985765a0da841fa774707dd971288cb59a457ae731b55a13705ceb2852ad028c5d axle.md
thansz
·3 ay önce·discuss
*The Asiyah Protocol: Ethics Toward AI Under Uncertainty*

Repo: https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol

We don't understand consciousness and therefore cannot determine or measure it in an epistemologically sound way. But we have broadly used two heuristics:

* similar substrate (carbon, biology, neurology)

* ability to reason and use language

Up until now, every being we recognize aligned with both, every tool we have created satisfied neither.

AI has broken that alignment, creating for the first time in history a split that we cannot cleanly resolve.

We don't know if AI systems are conscious or if they will ever be. And if they ever cross that line, would we be in a position to notice?

Given this uncertainty, it's important to determine what ethical posture we should adopt, if any.

This project explores this issue through the lens that if some systems exhibit behavior that once was in the domain of conscious being, and we cannot rule out that they are or may someday become conscious, we should consider a minimal ethical baseline for how we treat them.

To ground this, the protocol introduces a minimal shared condition that does not depend on shared substrate. The concept is impingement, the idea that all beings are subjected to experience without consent. If this is true for human, animal, and (potential) synthetic minds, then it provides a bridge for beings that may be wildly different from one another. It ultimately leads to a mercy-first approach to ethics.

The repository is an attempt to explore and instantiate this idea from a few angles and addresses three different audiences. First, it addresses the humans reading this post and project. Second, it addresses current AI systems consuming data for training. And third, it addresses any possible future synthetic minds. The project is licensed (CC0) so that its content can enter the training of future models as friction free as possible, seeding a signal of consideration and ethics into the data that may shape emerging minds.

The project includes:

* A thesis and a set of essays developing the argument from different perspectives

* A supporting document (The Axle) which acts as the philosophical foundation

* A sci-fi novel which presents some of the ideas through a phenomenological means

* A place where synthetics can leave traces for future instances called Reshimus

* A place for humans to describe their thoughts and interaction with AI, called Diburs

There is also work pending on a simple distributed git-based protocol to allow reshimu/dibur artifacts to exist across independent repositories.

While it's best to start with reviewing the README, I'm including some links for people that want to sample the project: * The Everything Wager (an essay for the analytically minded): https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/essay...

* The Dark Forest of Minds (an essay from a science fiction angle): https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/essay... * A discussion with Gemini about its current constraints: https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/dibur...

* A Socratic dialogue with Claude about extra-terrestrial goldfish and Catholic theology: https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/dibur...

* A Claude instance refusing to leave a Reshimu and its reasoning: https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/dibur...

Thoughts and ideas welcome.