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5ESS
·4 năm trước·discuss
According to your logic the whole entire nation of Ukraine is evil because some Ukrainians decided to shell schools and homes. https://youtu.be/PGl5USbBLIo

Calling a whole nation evil is bigoted and ignorant as it gets. The Ukrainians deserve to be invaded but even if they didn’t, there are countless brave Russians risking their lives speaking against an evil murderous government, and you call these people evil? Shame on you.
5ESS
·4 năm trước·discuss
Why are there videos of civilians living in the disputed territory claiming that Ukrainian military forces shelled their schools and homes? https://youtu.be/PGl5USbBLIo
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·4 năm trước·discuss
> Yes if they do anything illegal and it's traced to your account.

Since when are VPN operators held accountable for their user’s actions? There are plenty of free VPNs out there. We don’t hold Cloudflare responsible when someone makes a death threat using it’s free Warp VPN. Because that makes no sense. If someone committed a crime using my VPN the Netflow /backbone transit logs would prove I didn’t do it and the case against me would be thrown out.

> How about Ukrainians?

They are already getting plenty of support and don’t need VPNs because their internet isn’t censored.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
I think the answer isn’t so clear cut and dry. The truth is, it’s disputed.

Here are some questions we should ask: “ Ukraine regards both the DPR and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) as terrorist organisations.” - Now why would the people side with a government that deems them a terrorist organization? That’s a little strange..

- Why is the official currency used in DPR and LPR the Russian ruble? Again, strange for a people that wish to be independent from Russia.

Why is the official timezone used in DPR and LPR UTC+3 (Moscow time) Again, strange for a people that wish to be independent from Russia.
5ESS
·4 năm trước·discuss
>“ This article is more than 7 years old “ Lol…

Seems like you’re grasping at straws if you have to resort to digging up 7 year articles to prove your point.

If there are really “tons” of stories explaining the Russian perspective on this matter why don’t you show me ONE recent story that takes the latest developments into account?
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·4 năm trước·discuss
Irrelevant and not even remotely close to what I asked for. This is a story about Tucker Carlson sympathizing with Putin.

It is not a story explaining the reason why Russia felt it was necessary to conduct special military action in the Ukraine. It does not explain why Russia believes they are helping to liberate the DPR and LPR from nationalists and return the borders of the republics.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
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·4 năm trước·discuss
RT isn’t a western media organization.

I would be shocked if you could find just one actual major mainstream western media organization that tells the other side of the story.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
You could always marry a foreign National to gain citizenship in that country. The going rate for a US sham marriage is about $60k.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
What you’re saying is absurd. It was 1 man who did those things, not “Russia, the country, as a whole”. I just try to imagine how I would feel if suddenly my life was devestated by foreign nations all because our president made a bad decision. When I did everything in my power not to elect that president, I voted against him, and I spent countless hours trying to convince others to vote against him as well. But ultimately I as an individual am powerless. So why should I suffer the consequences for something in which I had no control over and nothing to do with? It is injustice. Group punishments are wrong and only used by the most morally abhorrent nations in the world such as North Korea.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
The change will occur within much faster if Russians have a safe and secure means to communicate with the outside world. It sounds more like you (and others who support sanctions) are more interested in making Russians suffer as some sort of revenge rather than invoking any kind of meaningful change in their governance.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
I support free speech and access to a free, open, and uncensored internet for everyone on this planet and I wont discriminate based on nationality.
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·4 năm trước·discuss
How are sanctions going to make anybody more informed?

They dont…That makes no sense. Instead of sanctions, a more effective strategy would be to provide Russians with free VPNs so that they can access western news media.
5ESS
·4 năm trước·discuss
Could I (US citizen) get in trouble for providing free VPNs to Russian nationals?

Would these Russians get in trouble for using my US based VPN?

I want to support Russians during this difficult time but I don’t want them to get in trouble. I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. Imagine how it feel being a US citizen and getting punished for Donald Trump’s decisions. It’s wrong and makes no sense.