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Snuggly73
·4 tháng trước·discuss
Just to nitpick the math. If you are going to fire 50% of the company, the AI tools should actually make the remaining people 100% more efficient, not 50% :)
Snuggly73
·5 tháng trước·discuss
it has been pretty much a benchmark for memorization for a while. there is a paper on the subject somewhere.

swe bench pro public is newer, but its not live, so it will get slowly memorized as well. the private dataset is more interesting, as are the results there:

https://scale.com/leaderboard/swe_bench_pro_private
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
I mean, its right there in their blog - https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agents

"We've deployed trillions of tokens across these agents toward a single goal. The system isn't perfectly efficient, but it's far more effective than we expected."
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
if it’s too hard for you to write, it’s too hard for you to understand and comprehend. how are you going to take responsibility for that code and maintain it if needed?
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Well, could it be because it was instructed to kinda "study" Servo?

https://github.com/wilsonzlin/fastrender/blob/3e5bc78b075645...
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
I've watched them today work in the new repo - https://github.com/wilson-anysphere/fastrender/tree/main , adding another 50k lines trying to optimize scroll/rendering performance (spoiler: not really)

At this point, its 1.5mlocs without the vendored crates (so basically excluding the js engine etc). If you compare that to Servo/Ladybird which are 300k locs each and actually happen to work, agents do love slinging slop.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Not sure - if it works, then who needs Cursor (and all other IDEs). You just ask for a browser and it comes out of the thin air.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
This is from the "official" build - https://imgur.com/fqGLjSA

The "in progress" build has a slightly different rendering but the same result
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Noticed that as well - I think it was “manual”
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
The latest commit now builds and runs (at least on my Mac). It’s tragically broken and the code is…dunno…something. 3m lines of something.

I couldn’t make it render the apple page that was on the Cursor promo. Maybe they’ve used some other build.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
And there is the thing about the cost. The blog post says that they've spent trillions (plural!) of tokens on that experiment.

Looking at OAI API pricing, 5.2 Codex is $14 per 1 million output tokens. Which makes cool $14m for 1 trillion tokens (multiplied by whatever the plural is). For something that "kind of works".

Its a nice ad for OAI and Anysphere, but maybe next time - just donate the money to a browser team?
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
The only thing that I got to actually run on WSL2 was the "Excel" (couldnt get anything actually to compile on Mac or Windows).

It a broken mess that probably implements 0.00001% of Excel. And its 1.2m locs.

With codebases developed in this way - either they need to figure out how agents are going to maintain them (in which case SWE as we know is dead - it will only be limited to those that can spend trillions of tokens, or they are going to remain weird demos.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
error: could not compile `fastrender` (lib) due to 34 previous errors; 94 warnings emitted

I guess probably at some point, something compiled, but cba to try to find that commit. I guess they should've left it in a better state before doing that blog post.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
I mean...the naive approach for a prime number check is o(n) which is linear. Probably u've meant constant time?
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Well, for some reason it doesnt let me respond to the child comments :(

The problem (which should be obvious) is that with a/b real you cant construct an exhaustive input/output set. The test case can just prove the presence of a bug, but not its absence.

Another category of problems that you cant just test and have to prove is concurrency problems.

And so forth and so on.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
I mean "have been bad" doesnt exclude "getting worse" right :)
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Test cases are great, but not a total solution. Can you write a test case for the add_numbers(a, b) function?
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Yes, and for some cases no.

The models are gotten very good, but I rather have an obviously broken pile of crap that I can spot immediately, than something that is deep fried with RL to always succeed, but has subtle problems that someone will lgtm :( I guess its not much different with human written code, but the models seem to have weirdly inhuman failures - like, you would just skim some code, cause you just cant believe that anyone can do it wrong, and it turns out to be.
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
Thanx. More of a "faster keyboard" so far then?

And yeah - if I had a crystal ball, I would be on my private island instead of hanging on HN :)
Snuggly73
·6 tháng trước·discuss
The article is arguing that it will basically replace devs. Do you think it can replace you basically one-shotting features/bugs in Zed?

And also - doesn’t that make Zed (and other editors) pointless?