foldU

3 tháng trướcdiscuss

This sounds like a really unpleasant shopping experience to me.

4 tháng trướcdiscuss

The geometric representation of AM/GM is very cool, but the first animation seems wrong to me, it should be varying the value of `b`, not the location of the circle, for it to make sense, no?

foldU

10 tháng trướcdiscuss

I don’t mean to suggest it’s not sleazy—I think it’s sleazy by default. VC writing is not to be trusted.

foldU

10 tháng trướcdiscuss

I don't think a post on a VC blog of all places should be considered "journalism"

foldU

năm ngoáidiscuss

This is correct, I appreciate you for putting it so coherently :). I think I didn’t make it clear enough in the piece that I’m coming from a stance of fast access being table stakes, and the question being about how that’s accomplished.

foldU

năm ngoáidiscuss

he addresses this, you simply get airline pilots to pick them

foldU

năm ngoáidiscuss

Yes, it’s good

foldU

2 năm trướcdiscuss

whoops! thank you!

foldU

2 năm trướcdiscuss

(author of OP) That post of yours was actually what got me tooling around with this stuff again :) it's a really excellent one

foldU

2 năm trướcdiscuss

You also don't really have to worry about convergence, since these are formal power series.

foldU

2 năm trướcdiscuss

More deserves to be written on the ILP idea, I haven't actually tried to make it work but it seems to me like the only real direction to optimize ("optimize" used in the mathematical sense, rather than the programming sense) queries that you can't just exploit the principle of optimality on (see this earlier article I wrote [1] for a bit more exposition). I think maybe some of the egg [2] people have experimented with this.

Speaking from experience, there's lots of rewrites you'd want to do in a query optimizer that having access to efficient DAG-shaped query plans would make tenable, but as a specific example they are an important part of doing full subquery decorrelation [3].

[1] https://buttondown.email/jaffray/archive/why-are-query-plans...

[2] https://egraphs-good.github.io/

[3] https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/writing/materialize-decor...

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

Ah my apologies, I wasn't familiar with that syntax.

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

I think this one is obvious actually! There's no choice but to aggregate it at the level of the `xx` `SELECT`, no other level has access to the `x` column.

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

(I'm the author of the original post [1]) And while I think the rules, in the end, make sense, I think it's not quite as clear cut as you describe, consider:

    SELECT (SELECT sum(1) FROM xx LIMIT 1) FROM aa;

which returns

    3
    3
    3

Personally, I think having the inner aggregation always attach to the nearest `SELECT` would have been an equally valid way of defining how this works, but it just so happens it is not defined that way.

[1]: https://buttondown.email/jaffray/archive/sql-scoping-is-surp...

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

I agree, I think the original sin here is the fact that whether a `SELECT` is an aggregation is determined by the contents of the scalar expressions at all. I think most of this weirdness comes directly out of wanting to be able to write both `SELECT sum(x) FROM xx` and `SELECT x FROM xx` and have them work.

Not that I have a better solution offhand, in SQL grouping by a constant value is not actually the same as not writing `GROUP BY` at all since the behaviour on empty tables is different.

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

I had not heard of this term but it sounds like the same thing!

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

whoops embarrassing. thank you for pointing that out!

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

I had no idea, thanks!

foldU

3 năm trướcdiscuss

You are correct! I will fix it when I get home, thank you for the correction!

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