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grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
Heh, still rules.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
I am generally bullish on SpaceX, and I'm quick to forgive mistakes in flight - engines, avionics, control systems, etc - that shit is difficult.

But the pad failing is indefensible. Any engineer on staff should have been able to see that as a problem, and if they were over ruled by executives then they have serious problems ahead.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
That's fair, but also, Twitter culture is definitely it's own culture, and I've largely seen quickly slammed out "fuck you"s to be emotionally equivalent to the rolling eyes emoji or the "wanking" hand gesture.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
Heh, rules.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
I do believe I'm at least attempting good faith here, I just do not find "fuck you" as a tweet, even levelled against me, to be particularly aggressive. Especially such a short message.

I'm likely more terminally online, more cynical, or more desensitized, but I see the two word "fuck you" to be such low effort that it doesn't even rise to the level of notice.

Like, an insult that specifically called out my behaviors or appearance or something and said fuck you? That feels meaningful, that's personal. But like, autocompleting two words flippantly into a tweet is like... Nothing?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
> Of course it is an attack..

I mean the question I was raising was basically, "it's not clear this is an attack?" specifically because it's not "of course" to me.

Can you explain a bit more why it's obviously an attack?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
She wasn't live tweeting her hr warning, her witness was. (Who was likely not a participant in the conversation).
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
> Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions?

Seems to be working for Elon, tbh.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
I disagree, I think of tweets as nothing - air, fluff, someone expressing themselves without thinking. If someone tweets fuck you at me I'm not insulted, it's such a low effort post why would it ever even be parsed by me into anything meaningful?

It's like being insulted because someone farted at the hotel you were staying at. It's of so little consequence it cannot possibly be an insult.

It's incredible to see HN lose their minds because someone sent a two word tweet with a curse word in it, lol. A tweet.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
An internal meeting is a much broader category than "a disciplinary meeting to issue a verbal warning from hr".
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
You and I roll in very different circles. I've had clients who told me to go fuck myself (and vice versa) without any real damage to our relationship.

A New Yorker using the expression is just frankly a different reading than a Washington DC type.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
It's really, really not. Fuck you has a huge range of meaning. Carlin built several comedy bits around the word Fuck specifically because it was used colloquially so many ways.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
Those meetings are not disciplinary meetings where your performance is being discussed. Everything in a disciplinary meeting is workplace conditions, full stop.

And if hr disagreed, they could have asked the guest to leave.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
I have had a different life from you. I've been homeless, I've been wealthy, I've lived in many cultures and communities from suburbs to communes. I've worked tech I've worked as day labor moving soil by hand. I guarantee you that language (and especially the use of curse words), varies wildly.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
It's rude, sure, but I still fail to see how that rises to the level of attack? What harm is intended or possible from a comment like that? Are all rude comments attacks?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
What's your source for the mocking tone? Is lizthegrey known for tweeting about hr proceedings in a moving tone?

Also, what is tweeting if not "speaking publicly"?

And what are workplace conditions if not "how I am disciplined at work"?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
There's a great Mike Monteiro talk about contracting titled, "Fuck you; Pay me", so yes, it's not unheard of at all.
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
So, free speech doesn't extend to criticism of the government? People should lose their jobs because they said mean words on Twitter?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
Can women be brony's?
grimgoldgo
·3 năm trước·discuss
"Fuck you" has so many different tones, and is so ubiquitous. It can be playful, jocular, intense, deadly serious, all over the place. Fuck you is not, by default, a personal attack, imo.

It's also almost certainly culturally different on different coasts, online, in person, etc. A tweet is like, nothing.