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jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
> As an adult who knows this is happening and allows it to continue, you are complicit.

Do you use consumer electronics? Do you know the conditions at Foxconn, or any factory in China? More to the point, do you know how polluted China is right now, and how much manufacturing destroys the country?

So therefore, by your logic, you are complicit.
jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
Ethnically Chinese people are hated in Indonesia and the Philippines.[0] As in, during times of unrest and civil disturbance, there is a lot of murder and rape of Chinese people.

Partly for this reason. The addition of ethnic differences to economic inequality is a volatile mixture.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/World-Fire-Exporting-Democracy-Instab...
jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
That is also objectively false.

Often, dogs will try to be part of the family and try to assert dominance over family members, especially younger, more timid children. They're aspiring to be a higher place in the pack than they should be, and they need to be trained in the fact that they're objectively and necessarily not equal to any human being.

When a dog ever thinks it is the equal of humans, bad things happen, such as bites and euthanasia of the dog, and maulings. That's why you need to train it early as a puppy, that it should never bite/be aggressive to humans, as it'd be harmful to the dog.

The same reasoning can be applied to humans, but cannot be applied to wrenches. Equating wrenches to dogs is another logical dead end - either dogs have feelings and emotions and hopes, otherwise the beating your dog is equivalent to leaving a wrench out in the rain without oil, as both are just tools to you.
jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
I'm objecting to your sentence, saying it's objectively false. Whether or not training another human being is ethical or not is another argument (e.g. children).

A dog needs to be taught what is acceptable behavior and what is not acceptable behavior. If you have somebody living with you, they need to be educated on what they can and cannot do. And since dogs and human are pack animals, you need to enforce the idea of a hierarchy where you are above them to ensure obedience.

The fact that you're denying them contact with their families and not paying them is one thing. However, it's a completely different thing from saying that the modification of behavior of humans is wrong, categorically.
jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
I don't know how common it is in the Philippines, but it's very common in rich parts of China and Taiwan [0].

Although they probably do get paid something and have freedom, the situations are very similar. Dropped into a location without the ability to speak the language or financial resources to escape.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EHNSDKK/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?...
jimmywanger
·9 năm trước·discuss
> Neither your dog nor your wrench have to be taught their place in the world.

Have you ever had a dog? Dogs definitely need to be taught what's acceptable and what's not.