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R2R: The Most Advanced AI Retrieval System (V3 API Release)

r2r-docs.sciphi.ai
1 points·by ocolegro·2 năm trước·1 comments

Triplex – OSS LLM that can build knowledge graphs from your laptop

sciphi.ai
2 points·by ocolegro·2 năm trước·1 comments

Show HN: R2R V2 – A open source RAG engine with prod features

github.com
251 points·by ocolegro·2 năm trước·71 comments

Show HN: R2R – Open-source framework for production-grade RAG

github.com
167 points·by ocolegro·2 năm trước·57 comments

Tired of OpenAI assistants API? I will deploy your first RAG pipeline

16 points·by ocolegro·2 năm trước·7 comments

Show HN: I made a Perplexity-like research agent

search.sciphi.ai
5 points·by ocolegro·3 năm trước·0 comments

[untitled]

1 points·by ocolegro·3 năm trước·0 comments

AgentSearch – An LLM-First Search RAG Client and Engine

owencolegrove.substack.com
3 points·by ocolegro·3 năm trước·0 comments

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ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Hey HN,

We've just released R2R V3 with a completely RESTful API that covers everything you need for production RAG applications. The biggest change is our Git-like knowledge graph architecture, but we've also unified all the core objects you need to build real applications.

Check our [API](https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/api-and-sdks/introduction) or join our [Discord](https://discord.gg/p6KqD2kjtB) if you want to dive deeper. We'd love feedback from folks building in production!
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
We've been using hatchet for cloud deployments and have really enjoyed the reliable execution / observability, congrats on the launch.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
new docs are out if anyone was still wanting that, thanks.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Thanks I agree that would be a more streamlined introduction.

The quickstart clearly has too much content in retrospect, and the feedback here makes it clear we should simplify.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
thanks, this is really solid feedback - we will make a more inclusive docker image to make the setup easier/faster.

Think of R2R as an SDK with an out of the box admin dashboard / playground that you can plug into.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
yes, I think so.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Awesome - interested to hear your thoughts / feelings after you get a chance to try it out.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
its a optional dep used for kgs
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
I'm just seeing this now.

The key advantages can be extracted from the response above to Kluless -

R2R is built around RESTful API and is dockerized, so devs can get started on app development immediately.

The system was designed so that devs can typically scale data ingestion up to provider bottlenecks w/out extra work.

We have implemented user-level permissions and high level document management alongside the vector db, which most devs need to build in a production setting, along with the API and data ingestion scaling.

Lastly, we also log every search and RAG completion that flows through the system. This is really important to find weaknesses and tune the system over time. Most devs end up needing an observability solution for their RAG.

All of these connect to an open source developer dashboard that allows you to see uploaded files, test different configs, etc.

These basic features mean that devs can spend more time on iterating / customizing their application specific features like custom data ingestion, hybrid search and advanced RAG.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
No we don't have any explicit code graph tools. Sourcegraph might be a good starting point for you, their SCIP indices are pretty nice
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
great question, I can talk about how we do the more challenging "List all YC founders that worked at Google and now have an AI startup."

For this we have a target dataset (the YC co directory) that we have around 100 questions over. We have found that when feeding an entire company listing in along with a single question we can get an accurate single answer (needle in haystack problem).

So to build our evaluation dataset we feed each question with each sample into the cheapest LLM we can find that reliably handles the job. We then aggregate the results.

This is not perfect but it allows us to have a way to benchmark our knowledge graph construction and querying strategy so that we can tune the system ourselves.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
See the guide here - https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/cookbooks/local-rag

we have instructions for getting setup and running w/ ollama. It should be pretty smooth.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
I can't answer for the kindly poster above (ty), but from our experience techniques like HyDE are great when you are getting a lot of comparative questions.

For instance, if a user asks "How does A compare to B" then the query expansion element of HyDE is incredibly useful. The actual value of translating queries into answers for embedding is a bit unclear, since most embedding models we are using have been ft'ed to map queries onto answers.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Is this an example that could benefit from something like knowledge graph construction or structured entity extraction?

I'm just curious because we have theorized and seen in practice that extraction is a way to answer questions which require connected information across disparate chunks, like you can see in the simple cookbook here [https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/cookbooks/knowledge-graph].

Or do you think this is something that can just be solved with more advanced multimodal ingestion?
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Currently R2R has out of the box logic for the following:

csv, docx, html, json, md, pdf, pptx, txt, xlsx, gif, jpg, png, svg, mp3, mp4.

There are a lot of good questions around ingestion today, so we will likely figure out how to intelligently expand this.

For mp3s we use whisper to transcribe, for videos we transcribe with whisper and sample frames to "describe" with a multimodal model. For images we again transcribe to a thorough text description - https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/cookbooks/multimodal

We have been testing multi-modal embedding models and open source models to do the description generation. If anyone has suggestions on SOTA techniques that work well at scale we would love to chat and work to implement these. Long run we'd like the system to be able to handle multi-modal data locally.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Have you tried it out yet, how does it compare with gpt-4o?
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
No not yet, I've had difficulty getting these different providers to work together on integrations. If you have any suggestions we are all ears.

In the meantime we've built our own dashboard which shows ingested documents, and has a customizeable chat interface - https://github.com/SciPhi-AI/R2R-Dashboard.

It's still a bit rough though.
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Yes, there is a guide to running R2R with local models here - https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/cookbooks/local-rag
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
We agree that ingestion and extraction are a big part of the problem for building high quality RAG.

We've talked to a lot of different developers about these problems and haven't found a general consensus on what features are needed, so we are still evaluating advanced approaches.

For now our implementation is more general and designed to work across a variety of documents. R2R was designed to be very easy to override with your own custom parsing logic for these reasons.

Lastly, we have been focusing a lot of our effort on knowledge graphs since they provide an alternative way to enhance RAG systems. We are training our own model for triples extraction that will combine with the automatic knowledge graph construction in R2R. We are planning to release this in the coming weeks and are currently looking for beta testers [we made a signup form, here - https://forms.gle/g9x3pLpqx2kCPmcg6 for anyone interested]
ocolegro
·2 năm trước·discuss
Take a look here - https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/quickstart#ingest-data and here https://r2r-docs.sciphi.ai/cookbooks/client-server#ingest-do...

Since multiple people have requested we are pushing a quick change to make this emphasized in the docs.