IDF blames 'technical error' after children collecting water killed in strike(news.sky.com)
news.sky.com
IDF blames 'technical error' after children collecting water killed in strike
https://news.sky.com/story/idf-blames-technical-error-after-gaza-officials-say-children-collecting-water-killed-in-strike-13396138
10 comments
If you’re wondering whether you would speak out against the horrors of what happened in ww2 and in other places in the world at other times in the past, look at yourself today. It’s being done right now. Now you know how you would act then also.
Agreed 100%.
What's "worse" is that today we have access to (basically) real-time videos/evidence of the crimes and yet so many people claim that's all fake.
Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. The least we can do is be vocal about the reality.
What's "worse" is that today we have access to (basically) real-time videos/evidence of the crimes and yet so many people claim that's all fake.
Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. The least we can do is be vocal about the reality.
To be fair, the bastards of today have learned a fair bit from the bastards of the past on what to avoid doing to look like a bastard.
In what way? The horrors of Auschwitz, etc where not known at the time.
Even with the limited access it's clear that Israel is killing and torturing an entire nation. Whether you want to call it ethnic cleansing or genocide anyone pretending it isn't happening has no excuse.
That the US, and more generally, the West, are arming and funding it makes us all complicit
Even with the limited access it's clear that Israel is killing and torturing an entire nation. Whether you want to call it ethnic cleansing or genocide anyone pretending it isn't happening has no excuse.
That the US, and more generally, the West, are arming and funding it makes us all complicit
> The horrors of Auschwitz, etc where not known at the time.
Oh, they were known, they were just able to be pushed out the mind until filmed, unredacted, and uncensored evidence started to be widely and publicly seen, after the fact. No one in the West sees Gazan children dying on their TV, they hear verbal descriptions (as they did from the very start of what became the Shoa) or they see a cut to black or a mosaic blur or a shot of aftermath rubble, maybe with a body covered by a sheet. Usually it’s just a number scrolling by on a chyron. One of the things the bastards of today learned is don’t make the mistake of the bastards of tomorrow and let your populace (or your enemy’s populace) see uncensored atrocities… anyone’s atrocities. Most Americans alive today have only seen the least horrible and most anodyne images from Auschwitz or Bergen-Belsen or Sobibor (or My Lai, or Phnom Penh, or Baghdad, or on and on and on)… if they’d seen the bulldozers pushing naked children with holes through their skulls into pits they’d never have been able to vote for the bastard of today when he’s using the playbook(s) of the bastard(s) of yesteryear.
And yeah, we’re all complicit, especially in the other substantially equivalent, if not greater, atrocities happening with Western funding and Western weapons that we’ve been ignoring for equally long or longer. Yemen, Syria, Sudan, the DRC. The less the victims look like us, the easier it is for us to ignore… especially when our governments and our media do us the job we’ve asked them to do by not letting us see what’s really happening out there.
They’re going to do a much better job of getting us to be complicit in the future, given the confluence of AI, social media, and the progressively more authoritarian leaning of aging tech broionaires.
Oh, they were known, they were just able to be pushed out the mind until filmed, unredacted, and uncensored evidence started to be widely and publicly seen, after the fact. No one in the West sees Gazan children dying on their TV, they hear verbal descriptions (as they did from the very start of what became the Shoa) or they see a cut to black or a mosaic blur or a shot of aftermath rubble, maybe with a body covered by a sheet. Usually it’s just a number scrolling by on a chyron. One of the things the bastards of today learned is don’t make the mistake of the bastards of tomorrow and let your populace (or your enemy’s populace) see uncensored atrocities… anyone’s atrocities. Most Americans alive today have only seen the least horrible and most anodyne images from Auschwitz or Bergen-Belsen or Sobibor (or My Lai, or Phnom Penh, or Baghdad, or on and on and on)… if they’d seen the bulldozers pushing naked children with holes through their skulls into pits they’d never have been able to vote for the bastard of today when he’s using the playbook(s) of the bastard(s) of yesteryear.
And yeah, we’re all complicit, especially in the other substantially equivalent, if not greater, atrocities happening with Western funding and Western weapons that we’ve been ignoring for equally long or longer. Yemen, Syria, Sudan, the DRC. The less the victims look like us, the easier it is for us to ignore… especially when our governments and our media do us the job we’ve asked them to do by not letting us see what’s really happening out there.
They’re going to do a much better job of getting us to be complicit in the future, given the confluence of AI, social media, and the progressively more authoritarian leaning of aging tech broionaires.
You are right there was public knowledge from about 1943 onwards and rumours prior to that.
I had thought it was later that it became apparent the horror that was occurring.
Unlike now where it has been clear from a few days in.
I had thought it was later that it became apparent the horror that was occurring.
Unlike now where it has been clear from a few days in.
Amongst the Jews it was public knowledge long, long before '43. By the time the camps started being liberated by the Soviets pretty much everyone knew something truly abominable was happening, they just didn’t know about the piles of hair and teeth or the showers.
In other words the world saw a genocide and did f**k all… then it was forced to see that this wasn’t just a genocide, it was a bad genocide, so it hung a few and shot a few and then expatriated the rest to run their space race.
What’s been happening in Gaza has been clear since at least '48… this is just the final turn of the horrible screw, but the screw’s been grinding since long before I was born.
In other words the world saw a genocide and did f**k all… then it was forced to see that this wasn’t just a genocide, it was a bad genocide, so it hung a few and shot a few and then expatriated the rest to run their space race.
What’s been happening in Gaza has been clear since at least '48… this is just the final turn of the horrible screw, but the screw’s been grinding since long before I was born.
twangist(1)