I guess you seem to forget the civil war that was happening before NATO got there. The one the was so atrocious that not even China or Russia vetoed it when the proposal of interfering was voted on at the UN.
This is not morally equivalent to what is being done to Ukraine, not even close. There is criticism to be put on the mission in Libya, but it should be that NATO didn’t stay long enough to stabilize the country and support peaceful nation building.
Or maybe you think war crimes are just fine and no one should ever try to do anything about them.
I’d like to see you defend that position to people that survived nazi concentration camps. Or a Rwandan who saw their family butchered over arbitrary tribalism.
I know you’re going to disagree with this using some silly rationalization, I won’t respond to after this because it fundamentally sounds like you don’t believe is Ukraine’s right to self determination and you think that they should be bound by deals the US or Russia have made on its behalf in the past which Ukraine had no say in.
Here it is, NATO is fundamentally a defensive organization, and Ukraine is a democratic country they should be free to choose who they do deals with, I’d feel the same way if they freely and democracy decided to align closer with Russia.
I think saying NATO antagonize this is people treating Ukraine like a colonial holding of Russia and that Ukraine doesn’t have sovereignty. This is fundamentally wrong and goes against any countries right to self determination. I don’t care if it’s the US or Russia trying to dictate terms to a third country, it’s wrong either way.
What I really think this is about is Russians are fundamentally humiliated that other former Soviet countries like the Baltic states and Poland have a fair greater standard of living than Russia exactly because they embrace democracy and cooperated with western countries. Russia just wants to wreck Ukraine for aligning more with the West and improving their economy because they’re afraid of having another example of a former Soviet country prospering of their doorsteps making it ever more obvious how badly the rulers of Russia treat their people.
I guess you seem to forget the civil war that was happening before NATO got there. The one the was so atrocious that not even China or Russia vetoed it when the proposal of interfering was voted on at the UN.
This is not morally equivalent to what is being done to Ukraine, not even close. There is criticism to be put on the mission in Libya, but it should be that NATO didn’t stay long enough to stabilize the country and support peaceful nation building.
Or maybe you think war crimes are just fine and no one should ever try to do anything about them.
I’d like to see you defend that position to people that survived nazi concentration camps. Or a Rwandan who saw their family butchered over arbitrary tribalism.
You’re a cowered.