emsal · HackerTrans

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Doesn't this fundamentally misunderstand the Pareto principle? The 80% and 20% of causes in standard examples don't refer to portions of a sequential effort, but rather slices of competing agents/producers/customers in an economic system. Like, 20% of clients account for 80% of sales, that kind of thing.

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I think the "repulsive attitude" I'm referring to is shouting "Just grow a thick skin!" to someone who is saying that they're suffering from abuse. In some cases, the suffering is so acute and so deep ("bullets") that it's not necessarily actionable on the part of the person suffering; rather, it's a call for help that others may respond to.

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OP replied to my comment and I now see that it makes sense as an observation. The narrative I was referring to is something that I see common in discussions surrounding abuse; "there's nothing to be done about it; [people should] just grow a thick skin." If we agree that this exists, then I posit that it's a toxic thing to say to someone who's coming forward and saying that they're suffering from this. It's also toxic to use that as a way to dismiss measures that we can build in technologically to combat abuse, like building blocking mechanisms or modifying them to make them better. Hope that clarifies things.

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Perhaps I replied to the wrong comment then. Sorry for being confrontational.

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Unfortunately HN is no longer a place where you can assume good faith observations when something like that is said. OP's words play into toxic narratives that need to be called out for the sake of other people reading the comments. I might be wrong about OP's intentions when giving my reply, but I am pushing back against a narrative, not against a specific person.

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You might be correct but it still stands that nothing is added to the discourse by just telling people to grow a thick skin. It's a repulsive attitude and I had to call that out.

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"hey reminder that" does make a difference, but that difference is invisible because it's exclusively in the form of incidents that did not happen. Remember that everyone reading the comment is a human too and some will be receptive. Good is good.

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Many public figures have social media and PR teams to help deal with stuff like this, you really expect that every individual out there should just grow a thick skin as culture is continually encouraging us to have more and more of a public presence? This is the kind of thinking that gives a free pass to entrenched patterns of discrimination and targeted hate speech. It's very possible that emails like this wouldn't just be a spew of random insults but targeted towards a person's very specific triggers, and in that case a thick skin cannot stop a bullet.

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Perhaps this is the obvious comment, but I really hope that something that employs technology like this can get off the ground and become a services company. The ideas about democratizing the AI inference hardware space and making it energy efficient really resonate with me.