failTide · HackerTrans

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I'm not using the term incorrectly. You're changing my argument's meaning from 'some' to 'ALL' - and then refuting the weaker argument. I feel like you're arguing from a place of emotion and clearly are offended, and I'm not interested in continuing that.

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> Many gun owners do only have one gun for protection

You keep using this logic, but it's just another strawman. I've never claimed these statements apply to everyone - that's a very weak interpretation, so I don't think you're arguing in good faith.

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> The idea of the dog protecting the family is common amongst all large dog owners, it's not really specific to pitbull owners.

Ok then my argument still holds true, and you're just upset that I called out pitbulls specifically. Your argument for negative correlation also doesn't really make sense - if it did, gun owners would just stop at buying one gun because they already have one. People who take their self-defense seriously don't usually just stop at the bare minimum.

failTide

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Not necessarily strangers, but just in casual conversations with people in public places. Which guns they think are badass, the high price of ammunition, the annoyances of new regulations, etc.

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I didn't mean to imply that there wouldn't be a payment - although it's not always the case.

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If you asked pitbull owners what the benefits of their dog was, I assume most would put something like 'protects my family/house' on their list, or joke around about what would happen if an unlucky intruder chose their house to break into.

failTide

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Well I assume rural areas have much higher rates of gun ownership, for one.

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Because a lot of people claim they want a pitbull for home protection purposes, so it makes sense that they'd be more likely than average to have other means of protection as well.

failTide

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You may be right - but enough people do make it obvious that criminals wouldn't ever have a problem locating those households. Even without that obvious stuff, I've found that a lot of gun owners can't resist 'gun talk' which is also a pretty obvious giveaway.

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That's a straw man (I never said this applied to ALL gun owners), and I'd actually say that making straw man arguments in response to perceived negative comments about guns is also correlated with ownership - thus, I assume you are a gun owner. Not that hard.

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Bumper stickers, t-shirts, 2nd-amendment-related flags are probably a good place to start. Campaign signs, etc. Voter registration, political donations, etc. I'm guessing pitbull ownership is also correlated. Souped up trucks. Mailers from firearms-related organizations.

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A gift would still follow the state's laws on firearms transfers and eligibility, which can involve various forms and middlemen. With a straw purchase you're just handing the gun to someone else.

It's more of a gray area when it's an intrafamilial transfer.