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Ask HN: Can you suggest self-hosted chat/audio system with Android/iOS client

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Not sure why you get downvoted, maybe bots problem is huge problem that should make users concerned? As for me, when facebook tried to force me to send scan of my ID over email in order to unblock my account I decided I benefit more by not unblocking it :) Facebook way was probably the wrong way to ensure your users are real human beings, but either way I like not to be verified when online.
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Agree with everything you say. I mentioned WWII because during WWII Polish elites were systematically slaughtered by both invaders (Nazi Germans and Soviet Russia) - example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion, but also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre act of mass murdering of Polish officers who were mostly coming from Polish elites...

I have very similar thoughts about wars, I believe the mainstream narratives are only sliding on the surface of real underlying reasons behind wars.
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I would not call people who rule (current nor previous) "elite". Elites were mass murdered during WWII and later during communism, people who rule now have nothing to do with elites.
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Maybe she can start taking jobs from https://www.fiverr.com/? I bet there are people out there who would not care much if she is junior or not, but would want to simply have the job done.
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I'm 36, was fascinated with electronics since I was 6 (I got Russian imitation of Atari - in the country where I come from computers were very expensive until 2000's). My cousin got a Pentium 386 when I was 12 and that's roughly when I wrote my first program - I still remember it as if it was yesterday, it was Q-Basic, I understood probably less than 5% of what I was doing and I wanted to write a program which would take password and let me in only when password is correct. At the time I was imagining computer programs like buildings with rooms. I wanted to have my own computer so I could do stuff with it - I was reading books about programming and taking notes until I was 16 (I understood close to nothing, but I was so on fire I did not care much). And when I finally got my first computer first thing I did was not o write a program but to play games, only when I got saturated and bored with games my fascination to computer programming came back.

I'm on about the same constant level of fascination since then, but it's not exactly the same thing that fascinates me. I was first fascinated by simple idea that I can build things I want and nobody can stop me from doing whatever I wanted to do. Later I was fascinated with data structures and how I can use them to do clever stuff (I was even taking part in programming Olympiads in my country, with no major successes - I was never taking it serious enough, it was always fun and not work). I remember my first job - I could not believe somebody will now pay me to work with computers. And so with my first job my fascination started to shift towards actual complexity I was building for my employer, I was thinking how do I make stuff which I can guarantee will work and in the same time I will be able to easily handle if anything stopped working. I was so under-qualified and there had been days I could spend 20 hours in a row battling silly problems and rewriting things to improve them. Later I started working with the team and fascination shifted towards security and scalability of solutions. I had privilege to work with many different persons, some not motivated (and not even hiding this).

Now I'm a simple programmer doing day-to-day work, there are days I'm not impressed with my performance, especially when I have to work with technologies I don't love - when this happens I try to rewire my mind to enjoy the tech I don't love. I won't name particular technologies no to get down-voted ;) for me to identify what exactly makes me feeling mentally blocked was the first step, the second step was to make a mental effort to like what I didn't like. Sometimes I could achieve this by building something on my own with these tools I did not enjoy, other times taking a break for a few days to recharge my batteries and come back with fresh mind. I also have dreams and ideas to build something on my own but to fulfill these dreams I need to remove some road blocks which require money, so earning and saving money motivates me for that simple reason. In the same time what demotivates me most is to get paid for the time I was not delivering much of the value. When I have such day I don't despair but instead remove main sources of procrastination and start fresh next day. My aim is to be happy with myself if I was my own employer.

The reason I wrote this whole story is that sometimes I go back with my memories to remember how was I feeling back then. This can also empower me and help me find ways around my mental blockers.
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Years ago facebook kicked me out from their platform. After reading this article I feel I was right to keep it that way.
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I use podman in my projects, no problems. And since cli is compatible with docker all my work I have done using docker simply runs with podman.
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I was in the second scenario. It definitely is workaholism, and from my own experience the price check your body, mind and family gives in the end is not worth the financial gain...
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openvidu is nice, in many ways it looks very similar to google meet. And the "get a room" functionality reminds me of a system I used to use long time ago called appear.in (seems they are out of business..)
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I'm thinking about setting it up in podman, matrix is something I will check, though I must say after seeing NextCloud I might try that first, it looks very similar to Whatsapp (at least on screenshots I could see). This is something my older family members are familiar using so it would be easier for them to switch.
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RocketChat looks very nice, and they claim to also have audio/video calls.

https://rocket.chat

And there is also Android app! Nice, thanks for sharing!
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Wow! This looks like whatsapp!

https://nextcloud.com/talk/
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Nice! The list of clients/servers: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now/
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Thanks for sharing! Looks nice, there is even android app.

Looking through their android app it seems to be similar to google meets, I will definitely keep this in my bookmarks!
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I'm not sure what do you mean, where I live there are cases of people who had been prosecuted without valid reason and was sentenced to years in jail. Such situations are awful since innocent human being was put through suffering and by the system which should protect innocent people. But this is not rule that governs juridical system, people do make mistakes - you cannot judge whole system by mistake made by random Joe, no system would stand such test. I prefer to be judged by state judge than by angry crowd or self appointed police. Mainly because even state judge and police are accountable for their actions, whereas crowd or self appointed guards may be difficult to find after actions are done.
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I wholeheartedly hope the state police and state judges will enforce justice on all of those who committed crimes.

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especially when crimes were committed by some incopetent judge/policeman.
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In country where I live it is prohibited by law to promote fascism. So I think you are not right by saying company can do business with fascists (i.e. to promote fascism) if they like so. Such company would be dragged to court and owners would probably go to jail.
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Are you suggesting police and courts are not executing laws in USA?
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If coup is what he really have done then he should sit on his trial, right? This is very heavy offense, judges should decide and if they rule him guilty he should go to jail. It's judges who should decide if he is guilty or not, not AWS or Twitter.

As I understand those who were involved in any crime are going to be chased and put in front of the judge.
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> A phone call is one on one, this one to many.

If nobody wanted to listen then there would be `one to nobody`. But it seems many wanted to listen, even if another many wanted him to shut up..