moody__ · HackerTrans

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After all of this hype this is the best they can do? This is the forefront company (arguable) of the forefront tech and no one can review slides before being shipped out? I think the reason why this has resonated with people is that it gives a "vibe" of not giving a shit, they'll ship whatever next slop generator they want and they expect people to gladly lap it up. Either that or they're using their own dog food and the result is this mess. Do the stats even matter anymore? Is that what they're banking on?

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There aren't really union filesystems per se, the plan 9 kernel provides unions through its namespace model. In my opinion part of the reason why the userspace tools can be as nice as they are, are due to the use of file system interfaces and the simplistic syscall API. Could you elaborate more on the issues you see with the use of these?

In regards to using it for a "cloud native" stack, the issue is that people want to run code that isn't designed for Plan 9. You could build whatever backplane type thing you want out of plan 9 but the end goal is still likely to be to run some web app or REST api server. Unless someone does a great deal of effort to port all of those environments that people want (nodejs, modern python, etc) you're going to be stuck using a VM and losing a lot of the benefit.

This feels similar to what Joyent did with lxzones in SmartOS, where the backplane was solaris based but the apps they were running for clients were using Linux. It's hard to make the plan 9 backplane better enough to warrant dealing with integrating the guest and host environment.

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Yes you're correct, my apologies. There has been work on this going the other way as well: https://github.com/michaelforney/wl9. But there's still a lot more than can be done. There are vague plans to test the waters implementing something like this in to our vmx(1).

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Could you expand more on what you would like out of an "enterprise Plan 9"?

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This has been done already: https://github.com/aiju/jsdrawterm

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Working on plan 9 (9front) has gotten me two different jobs now. Not through companies wanting to work with Plan 9 specifically, but from members of the community who happened to have open spots at their company and were familiar with my work. This has the side effect of working with folks that have similar technical ideas in my dayjob, which is a nice bonus.

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