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sunfish
·قبل 3 سنوات·discuss
I work on WASI, and completely agree. A lot of things are not clearly documented right now, and we're working on fixing it.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
That cleaner foundation is shared-nothing linking, capability-based security, virtualizable APIs, and more, and a WASI organized around things like streams as first-class types.

The goal is to build a new platform. Initially, that looks like adding layers on top of existing platforms (which, as you say, already have multiple layers). If we succeed, then we get to start taking out some of the layers.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
It depends on what you mean by "at the bottom".

If you mean at the bottom of the wasm, the the answer is, those won't be legacy APIs. The direction we're heading is to provide POSIX compatibility as an emulation layer on top of a cleaner foundation, rather than just doing POSIX at the base layer.

If you mean that all Wasm engines today are implemented on top of traditional operating system APIs, then yes, that is how things will often work, but that's ok. What really matters is how the virtual platform works. We don't have to expose things like "the filesystem namespace" directly to wasm, even if it's present in the host. And if we don't expose "the filesystem namespace", then we don't have the associated problems, even if the underlying host has them.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
Not yet, at least. But we're working on that :-).
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
In systems designed for it, communication channels can transmit handles without using a shared namespace or master list. An example of this in the real world is Unix-domain sockets having the ability to send file descriptors across the socket without using a namespace or master list.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
It does, but that opens up much more powerful tools to work with.

As an example of one such tool in practice, compare the task of "list all open file descriptors in an arbitrary Unix process" with "list all strings an arbitrary Unix process incorporates some knowledge of". One is a one-liner (`lsof -p <pid>`) and one is really tricky at best, and probably can't be done reliably.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
Typing is nice, and when one is working within an existing system where environment variables are the main way for communicating data between parts of a system (which is many popular systems today), this kind of typing looks like it can add some nice benefits.

The blog post linked here is thinking about how the systems themselves could be designed differently, whether that's OS's, frameworks, platforms, languages, clusters, networks, or other things.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
There are IPC mechanisms today which aren't just bytes. For example, the ability to send file descriptors over unix-domain sockets. Strings of bytes fundamentally can't do that. And in programs that pass file descriptors, it doesn't require any ghostly assumptions about what namespace the strings need to be resolved in.

To be sure, Unix-domain sockets aren't the answer to everything, but they are an example of a different way to think about communication.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
I have a previous-generation Lemur Pro and suspend/resume on lid close/open works great.
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
Wasm is Turing-complete. What people typically mean by this is that in a browser context, compiling JS to Wasm does not currently make it run faster than just running the JS as JS.

Javascript can be compiled to WebAssembly, and there are people doing it:

https://bytecodealliance.org/articles/making-javascript-run-...
sunfish
·قبل 4 سنوات·discuss
This is true, however if we modify the program to print a 4096-byte long string instead of just the "hello world" string, then it's not sufficient again. And of course, the number 4096 is system-dependent.

So to really do hello world in C right, in addition to fflush, you also need to check the return value from puts. I've never seen any C tutorial do that though.