House passes $1.6B to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas(responsiblestatecraft.org)
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House passes $1.6B to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas
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It is more and more crucial that Europe, while remaining a stolid ally to the US, tries not to be fully involved in American (economic) wars, propaganda and protectionism. We have been fully dependent on them, now it is time to be good mates, but each with separate domestic and foreign policies. If Republicans win next year, this is not gonna get any better.
> while remaining a stolid ally to the US
nice typo
nice typo
> From Middle French stolide, ‘stolid’…
> calm and not emotional
> calm and not emotional
You're right, I've always misinterpreted the word, it's more neutral than I thought!
It comes from the Latin stolidus: “inert, dull, stupid”. So it's a strange case of a word with initially negative connotations that becomes somewhat neutral. Although Oxford Languages (Google's source) lists also "bovine", "lethargic", "torpid" and "stupid" as similar words, after "impassive", "unemotional" and "calm".
It comes from the Latin stolidus: “inert, dull, stupid”. So it's a strange case of a word with initially negative connotations that becomes somewhat neutral. Although Oxford Languages (Google's source) lists also "bovine", "lethargic", "torpid" and "stupid" as similar words, after "impassive", "unemotional" and "calm".
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Europe's past foreign policy, which relied on Russia and China, is what got them into trouble now. They should be more aligned with US, which they finally realized.
NATO chief urges China to stop supporting Russia's war in Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-chief-urges-china-...
How China helps keep Russia's economy afloat https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-is-helping-keep-the-russian-...
Keeping America close, Russia down, and China far away: How Europeans navigate a competitive world https://ecfr.eu/publication/keeping-america-close-russia-dow...
NATO chief urges China to stop supporting Russia's war in Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-chief-urges-china-...
How China helps keep Russia's economy afloat https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-is-helping-keep-the-russian-...
Keeping America close, Russia down, and China far away: How Europeans navigate a competitive world https://ecfr.eu/publication/keeping-america-close-russia-dow...
No wonder EU nations like Germany are going bankrupt - all industry fleeing since Germany now pays 4x the cost of energy to the U.S.
I partly agree with you because Europe is not a monolith. The countries that decided to depend on Russia most weren't its direct neighbors. Basically all countries that share the border with Russia warned the rest that Putin can't be trusted. But all in, he managed to somehow deceive everybody, including the USA, into thinking that although it's an authoritarian state, it's somewhat civilized and we can do business with them.
So with Russia, we're past that rude awakening moment. With China, it hasn't happened yet.
So with Russia, we're past that rude awakening moment. With China, it hasn't happened yet.
He didn't even fool Trump who introduced sanctions against Russian gas counter to German politicians wishes. What does it say about European politicians who did nothing of the sort?
>Somehow it’s a crime when Russia does it to us, but good 'information ops' when we want to discredit Beijing’s Belt & Road initiatives worldwide
This just sounds like "Somehow it's bad when enemy soldiers shoot at us, but we also shoot at them! What a hypocrisy!"
This just sounds like "Somehow it's bad when enemy soldiers shoot at us, but we also shoot at them! What a hypocrisy!"
Of course in a war both sides shoot at each other. The hypocrisy comes when one side is good and the other is bad for doing the same thing.
So it would be "The enemies soldiers are evil and just want us all dead, but we're the heros protecting our country".
So it would be "The enemies soldiers are evil and just want us all dead, but we're the heros protecting our country".
There is such thing as bothsideism, which isn't necessarily better than "my side is only good".
Sometime the world is indeed black and white. Other time, it's greyer if not outright muddy. In other words, it all depends.
Sometime the world is indeed black and white. Other time, it's greyer if not outright muddy. In other words, it all depends.
Blanket positions either way isn't good (both sides are equally good / bad or we're good they're evil). Nuance is always important I agree.
But it's far more common for "us" to be the good guys and for "them" to be the bad guys. Even without knowing anything about "them".
But it's far more common for "us" to be the good guys and for "them" to be the bad guys. Even without knowing anything about "them".
But it's far more common for "us" to be the good guys and for "them" to be the bad guys. Even without knowing anything about "them".
I would call that perspective too cynical for what the world actually looks like.
I would call that perspective too cynical for what the world actually looks like.
Not merely the heroes: If the other nations of the world do not agree with us or trade with those we don't like, we will sanction you and/or encourage "regime change" via paid NGO's, misinformation, bald-faced lies and propaganda - but this is fine since we are the "good guys".
Oh - and don't copy our laws regarding foreign agents. That is bad! Do as we SAY not as we do!
Oh - and don't copy our laws regarding foreign agents. That is bad! Do as we SAY not as we do!
If only someone during WW2 saw the hypocrisy of shooting at German soldiers we could've avoided the whole war. Chamberlain was right all along!
> This just sounds like "Somehow it's bad when enemy soldiers shoot at you, but you also shoot at them! What a hypocrisy!"
The problem is, there's a beginning, sure, but no end to such circular reasoning; seeding perpetual conflict.
The problem is, there's a beginning, sure, but no end to such circular reasoning; seeding perpetual conflict.
I'm old enough to remember when we all laughed when various dictators blamed US propaganda for the unrest that ultimately deposed them.
We all thought they were lying!
We all thought they were lying!
So the anti-China propaganda we got since 2016 was for free? Nice!
That $1.6B isn't all going to fund anti-China propaganda but framing that way is a cheap way to get people to look at government spending as a waste of money.
It's like two people: when one person's status and position are much higher than the other's, they won't even think about tarnishing the other person's reputation. They may even offer some help to satisfy their own vanity. However, when the two are of similar status and position, and one doesn't have a mindset of openness and mutual benefit, they may feel their position is threatened. When trying civilized methods doesn't suppress the competitor, they begin to resort to any means necessary.
For comparison, that's like 10% of Fox News' revenue.
And also according to the article:
"twice, for example, the annual operating expenditure of CNN."
but more importantly , separate! After all, we wouldn’t want to mix up the foreign and domestic budgets.
The US spent $916 billion on its military in 2023 [0]. Spending less than 1/5th of 1% of that on propaganda doesn’t seem to be a huge deal in comparison.
[0]: https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/2404_fs_mi...
[0]: https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/2404_fs_mi...
I don't think US needs to spend that amount of money, I think China is doing enough stupid things to spur anti-China sentiments overseas. Also, they could just remind people that China released COVID which killed millions and cost countries billions.
for example: US, EU raise alarm over China’s ‘very substantial’ support for Russia in Ukraine war. Beijing’s ‘significant’ exports said to be used on battlefield and given in exchange for Kremlin’s sensitive military technologies https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3278160/us...
or: Chinese coast guard ships fired water cannons and blocked and rammed a Philippine fisheries vessel https://apnews.com/article/china-philippines-disputes-spratl...
or: Japan claims Chinese military plane violated its territorial airspace for the first time https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/asia/japan-china-military-pla...
for example: US, EU raise alarm over China’s ‘very substantial’ support for Russia in Ukraine war. Beijing’s ‘significant’ exports said to be used on battlefield and given in exchange for Kremlin’s sensitive military technologies https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3278160/us...
or: Chinese coast guard ships fired water cannons and blocked and rammed a Philippine fisheries vessel https://apnews.com/article/china-philippines-disputes-spratl...
or: Japan claims Chinese military plane violated its territorial airspace for the first time https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/asia/japan-china-military-pla...
Outside of very specific niches like trade deficits, job and industry losses (moved to China), and geopolitical saber rattling, I feel the sentiment of the average man is actually very pro-China thanks to how much sheer money China pours into soft power.
I recommend seeing what China has its monies in, because they are in fucking everything today.
As an example, China has their monies in like 80~90%+ of the global video game market through Tencent, and video games are one of the heralds of pop culture and thus influence today. More critically, China has a growing stranglehold on the next generation of global payment processors through Alipay and WeChat Pay among others.
Also, perhaps ironically: This entire thread with numerous pro-China/anti-US/anti-west sentiments.
To put this in Civilization terms, China is going for an Econo-Cultural Victory and I daresay it's working.
I recommend seeing what China has its monies in, because they are in fucking everything today.
As an example, China has their monies in like 80~90%+ of the global video game market through Tencent, and video games are one of the heralds of pop culture and thus influence today. More critically, China has a growing stranglehold on the next generation of global payment processors through Alipay and WeChat Pay among others.
Also, perhaps ironically: This entire thread with numerous pro-China/anti-US/anti-west sentiments.
To put this in Civilization terms, China is going for an Econo-Cultural Victory and I daresay it's working.
> average man is actually very pro-China
survey would say otherwise: For the fifth year in a row, about eight-in-ten Americans report an unfavorable view of China https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/01/americans-rema...
In the 18 high-income countries we polled, views of China are, on balance, negative. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/07/09/views-of-china...
survey would say otherwise: For the fifth year in a row, about eight-in-ten Americans report an unfavorable view of China https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/01/americans-rema...
In the 18 high-income countries we polled, views of China are, on balance, negative. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/07/09/views-of-china...
I would take surveys with a large serving of salt. By their own admission, the American survey only concerned a selection of 3,600 by phone call, and those who refused to answer are not counted in the results. That's not going to create a reasonable representation, because for starters most people these days fucking hate junk calls.
Also of note in that survey is that the anti-China sentiment is heavily biased towards older conservatives. That means the current and coming younger, more progressive generations are more pro-China, relatively speaking.
This is China's investment into soft power blossoming in spades.
As for the country survey, have a closer look at that breakdown: The west, to include Japan and South Korea, are anti-China as a collective. Most of the rest of the world is at worst neutral and at best pro-China; South and Central America is almost entirely pro-China including Mexico, the US's immediate neighbour to the south.
Also, despite Indians' claimed anti-Chinese sentiment, India is also one of, if not the, China's biggest strategic ally if not necessarily a friend.
Again, China's investment into soft power blossoming in spades.
While the efficacy of American anti-Chinese propaganda is certainly debatable, it's clear the US and the west at large are losing the econo-cultural fight and need to respond somehow.
Also of note in that survey is that the anti-China sentiment is heavily biased towards older conservatives. That means the current and coming younger, more progressive generations are more pro-China, relatively speaking.
This is China's investment into soft power blossoming in spades.
As for the country survey, have a closer look at that breakdown: The west, to include Japan and South Korea, are anti-China as a collective. Most of the rest of the world is at worst neutral and at best pro-China; South and Central America is almost entirely pro-China including Mexico, the US's immediate neighbour to the south.
Also, despite Indians' claimed anti-Chinese sentiment, India is also one of, if not the, China's biggest strategic ally if not necessarily a friend.
Again, China's investment into soft power blossoming in spades.
While the efficacy of American anti-Chinese propaganda is certainly debatable, it's clear the US and the west at large are losing the econo-cultural fight and need to respond somehow.
I grew up in a very international diverse environment, but I cant name a single popular movie, song, or other media that I knew is from China, other than the meme where John Cena is eating icecream. I suspect this is the same for over 95% of Americans.
What soft power are you referring to exactly?
What soft power are you referring to exactly?
The soft power that had many (most?) young Americans screaming at the government for banning Tiktok.
The soft power that catapulted Genshin Impact to the top of sales rankings across the entire world.[1]
The soft power that led to China's incomprehensibly deep and wide spider web of financial influence.[2]
The soft power that has us wearing Chinese blue jeans, to use Civilization lingo.
If the west thinks this is a problem (and it probably is, at least I think it is) then we need to respond. Being in denial won't address anything.
[1]: https://sensortower.com/blog/genshin-impact-three-billion-re...
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent#Foreign_studio_assets
The soft power that catapulted Genshin Impact to the top of sales rankings across the entire world.[1]
The soft power that led to China's incomprehensibly deep and wide spider web of financial influence.[2]
The soft power that has us wearing Chinese blue jeans, to use Civilization lingo.
If the west thinks this is a problem (and it probably is, at least I think it is) then we need to respond. Being in denial won't address anything.
[1]: https://sensortower.com/blog/genshin-impact-three-billion-re...
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent#Foreign_studio_assets
Excluding cultural icons, as I understand the definition, these are not examples of soft power. These are just power.
Nobody here is denying china has an economic strength but that has nothing to do with soft power. Soft power has to do with cultural export, and china has none. Zero. Nothing.
I am not in denial. Nobody outside of china gives a rats ass about chinese music or movies, or chinese blue jeans. They just know about the great wall, and about how horrible the government is.. Everyone thinks genshin is japanese, and loves japanese denim.
And you cant just flag comments that you disagree with to make them dissapear. That might fly in china but thats not how civilized nations operate. The reason I accused you of being a wumao is because of the way you behave. Not because I am in denial. I am a native born american citizen. Never met anybody who knows a damn thing about chinese cultural exports. that is because there arent any.
Nobody here is denying china has an economic strength but that has nothing to do with soft power. Soft power has to do with cultural export, and china has none. Zero. Nothing.
I am not in denial. Nobody outside of china gives a rats ass about chinese music or movies, or chinese blue jeans. They just know about the great wall, and about how horrible the government is.. Everyone thinks genshin is japanese, and loves japanese denim.
And you cant just flag comments that you disagree with to make them dissapear. That might fly in china but thats not how civilized nations operate. The reason I accused you of being a wumao is because of the way you behave. Not because I am in denial. I am a native born american citizen. Never met anybody who knows a damn thing about chinese cultural exports. that is because there arent any.
China can not achieve a cultural victory. They are exporting their form of government, but Chinese culture is still a mystery in the west to this day, unlike, say, Japan or Korea. Can you name one Chinese pop star or movie star? Other than the Hong Kong ones, I can’t.
I think you've missed the Genshin Impact and Honkai: Star Rail craze, those two Chinese games took the global video game market by storm.
I'm not going to mention the smaller hits like Arknights and Azur Lane and many more.
Japanese and Korean pop culture are yesterday's news, Chinese pop culture is the current trend. And note, I say that very begrudgingly as a Japanese; even in Japan now the Chinese games are more popular than homegrown Japanese games.
I'm not going to mention the smaller hits like Arknights and Azur Lane and many more.
Japanese and Korean pop culture are yesterday's news, Chinese pop culture is the current trend. And note, I say that very begrudgingly as a Japanese; even in Japan now the Chinese games are more popular than homegrown Japanese games.
That monkey god game (Wukong something) also just came out this month and it's become one of Steam's most played games ever.
And of course Tencent also owns part of Path of Exile, Epic Games, Discord, Roblox, etc.
China used to own AMC Theaters too, and still owns some Hollywood studios like Legendary (Batman, The Hangover, Pacific Rim, Interstellar, etc.) through the Wanda conglomerate.
While we're talking about pop culture, China is just quietly buying up America piece by piece...
And of course Tencent also owns part of Path of Exile, Epic Games, Discord, Roblox, etc.
China used to own AMC Theaters too, and still owns some Hollywood studios like Legendary (Batman, The Hangover, Pacific Rim, Interstellar, etc.) through the Wanda conglomerate.
While we're talking about pop culture, China is just quietly buying up America piece by piece...
Buying things isnt soft power. The discussion was about soft power. Owning things is not soft power. He is referring to cultural exports. And there are not any.
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How are they exporting their form of government? I guess you meant talking to dictators and democracies alike, which also EU or US is doing.
Just look at extremely friendly unwavering long term support for say Saudi arabia, from where all 9/11 attackers and whole extreme wahhabism came from. Say Mohamed bin Salman is proven vicious psychotic murderer yet ie Trump admires him, and no western democracy refuses saudi oil.
Just look at extremely friendly unwavering long term support for say Saudi arabia, from where all 9/11 attackers and whole extreme wahhabism came from. Say Mohamed bin Salman is proven vicious psychotic murderer yet ie Trump admires him, and no western democracy refuses saudi oil.
>they could just remind people that China released COVID
Unfortunately for that narrative a lot of the research funding and ideas originated in the US.
Unfortunately for that narrative a lot of the research funding and ideas originated in the US.
> China released COVID
That's like saying, "The US released the Great Influenza of 1918." It's a naturally occurring pathogen. Nobody released it.
That's like saying, "The US released the Great Influenza of 1918." It's a naturally occurring pathogen. Nobody released it.
It is disingenuous to say that covid was naturally occuring. You should probably go look up the lab it came from, and who was funding it. (Canada and the US were involved.)
The scientific consensus is that the virus spilled over from wild animals sold at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan. There's strong evidence to back this up.
There's zero evidence that the virus has anything to do with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and in fact relatively strong evidence that they didn't have or even know about the virus before it spilled over.
There's zero evidence that the virus has anything to do with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and in fact relatively strong evidence that they didn't have or even know about the virus before it spilled over.
Oh really? I guess we just have different facts then. Got any links for me?
This is the definitive study that shows the epicenter of the Wuhan outbreak was the Huanan Seafood Market: Worobey et al. (2022), in the journal Science [0]. This is a study that discusses the genetic evidence that there were multiple spillovers at the market: Pekar et al. (2022), also in the journal Science [1].
The above two findings are completely inconsistent with the idea of a lab leak. Why would a lab leak cause an outbreak at a market that sells wild animals, of all places? And how would it cause two different lineages of virus to emerge at that market?
If you know how the original SARS spilled over, in wild animal markets in a major Chinese city (Guangzhou, far away from where the bats that carry SARS live), the Wuhan Seafood Market spillover looks nearly identical - just 17 years later.
Meanwhile, no evidence at all has emerged that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had anything to do with the emergence of SARS-CoV-2. Scientists at the WIV were regularly publishing and giving talks about exactly what they were working on, and they never mentioned anything closely related to SARS-CoV-2. They were working with viruses much closer to the original SARS, which is what most people back then were interested in. After SARS-CoV-2 emerged, you could actually go back and look into the WIV's publications to find the most closely related virus. It's called RaTG13, and it was published by scientists at the WIV all the way back in 2014. However, it's way too distantly related to SARS-CoV-2 to be the progenitor virus, and in fact, more closely related viruses have since been found by a French team in Laos. Basically, all the evidence about who knew what when, the genetics of more closely related viruses that have been discovered since the pandemic began argue positively that the WIV had nothing to do with the origins of the pandemic. This is in addition to the strong evidence that the initial outbreak was not at WIV, but rather at a wild animal market (which is exactly what you'd expect for a natural spillover).
None of this has made its way into the American public's consciousness, though.
0. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abp8715 1. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abp8337
The above two findings are completely inconsistent with the idea of a lab leak. Why would a lab leak cause an outbreak at a market that sells wild animals, of all places? And how would it cause two different lineages of virus to emerge at that market?
If you know how the original SARS spilled over, in wild animal markets in a major Chinese city (Guangzhou, far away from where the bats that carry SARS live), the Wuhan Seafood Market spillover looks nearly identical - just 17 years later.
Meanwhile, no evidence at all has emerged that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had anything to do with the emergence of SARS-CoV-2. Scientists at the WIV were regularly publishing and giving talks about exactly what they were working on, and they never mentioned anything closely related to SARS-CoV-2. They were working with viruses much closer to the original SARS, which is what most people back then were interested in. After SARS-CoV-2 emerged, you could actually go back and look into the WIV's publications to find the most closely related virus. It's called RaTG13, and it was published by scientists at the WIV all the way back in 2014. However, it's way too distantly related to SARS-CoV-2 to be the progenitor virus, and in fact, more closely related viruses have since been found by a French team in Laos. Basically, all the evidence about who knew what when, the genetics of more closely related viruses that have been discovered since the pandemic began argue positively that the WIV had nothing to do with the origins of the pandemic. This is in addition to the strong evidence that the initial outbreak was not at WIV, but rather at a wild animal market (which is exactly what you'd expect for a natural spillover).
None of this has made its way into the American public's consciousness, though.
0. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abp8715 1. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abp8337
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Dam they didn't even put this under the pentagon/cia black budgets.
Its a shame the US already did this with covid in the Philippines creating more chaos, death and anti vaccine.
May god have mercy on 3rd world countries that aren't part of NATO or SCO/BRICS+, because they will have an wasted decade in the 2020s and early 2030s.
May god have mercy on 3rd world countries that aren't part of NATO or SCO/BRICS+, because they will have an wasted decade in the 2020s and early 2030s.
Meanwhile all the candidates have given up and embraced tiktok :D
Well I guess it is now clear to all that the West has no moral superiority.
Please just build housing
The existing property owners (NIMBYs) don't want that, and they control the local governments.
Please just build housing anyway
>property owners (NIMBYs)
Quip for quip. More housing -> more property owners -> more NIMBYs. Do you really want more NIMBYs?
Quiping aside, what you call NIMBY i see as opposition to "profits to the developers, externalities to the existing property owners". I'm all for more housing, i just think that the above mentioned profit/externalities distribution should be seriously adjusted, and then you'd see much more housing being built.
Quip for quip. More housing -> more property owners -> more NIMBYs. Do you really want more NIMBYs?
Quiping aside, what you call NIMBY i see as opposition to "profits to the developers, externalities to the existing property owners". I'm all for more housing, i just think that the above mentioned profit/externalities distribution should be seriously adjusted, and then you'd see much more housing being built.
I thought the worlds’ population is in decline? Sounds to me like a problem that’ll sort itself out in 25 years or so.
Like money, food, water, and everything else, it's not just a supply problem a distribution one too. It doesn't matter if there are a bunch of vacancies on paper if those vacancies are too expensive and too far away from where the working poor (and that's most people these days) need to live.
You don't get these folks - they don't want just any housing. They want central big house, very close to FAANG work, school, but around a lot of nature too, for peanuts of course because 'hey in 50s one man could finance whole family' or similar extreme case taken out of proportions.
That literally everybody else wants it and thus its priced accordingly since we have market economies (in communism it worked similarly too but it was more about apparatchiks) and such properties are very scarce is irrelevant. They just want that appreciating investment.
There is no point discussing this here, it had been done ad nausea and even otherwise rational people turn to very emotional reasoning when it comes to them and their perceived rights for their own wealth. Something about expecting the world to adjust to my expectations or desires instead of the other way.
That literally everybody else wants it and thus its priced accordingly since we have market economies (in communism it worked similarly too but it was more about apparatchiks) and such properties are very scarce is irrelevant. They just want that appreciating investment.
There is no point discussing this here, it had been done ad nausea and even otherwise rational people turn to very emotional reasoning when it comes to them and their perceived rights for their own wealth. Something about expecting the world to adjust to my expectations or desires instead of the other way.
Global population is still rapidly growing despite developed nations moving toward stable numbers.
The US invests in its strategic and foreign policy objectives.
Shocking.
Shocking.
Why us and china can't be friends?
It was all quite friendly under Deng Xiaoping when China was mostly about peaceful trade. Sadly under Xi it's moving more to building up its military and trying to take other people land.
We are friends, comrade.
(But even "friends" sometimes sling some shit at eachother every now and then when it benefits them. It just usually doesn't cost $1.6B when this happens.)
(But even "friends" sometimes sling some shit at eachother every now and then when it benefits them. It just usually doesn't cost $1.6B when this happens.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_of_the_Pe...
Support of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
To name a few.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_of_the_Pe...
Support of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
To name a few.
Human rights abuses don't stop us from allying with Saudi Arabia, Israel, Armenia, Egypt, Pakistan, the UAE... and of course we have plenty of abuses within our own borders.
But China is a threat in a way those others aren't. Not just an economic competitor but potentially the next superpower after ours fades, and maybe next century's dominant culture. We're scared of them because they challenge everything we believe about our own model's superiority...
But China is a threat in a way those others aren't. Not just an economic competitor but potentially the next superpower after ours fades, and maybe next century's dominant culture. We're scared of them because they challenge everything we believe about our own model's superiority...
Doesn't stop the US from backing Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Commercial interests associated to hypocrisy.
Why can't US and China just be competitors, as it was before Xi got on this conquer Taiwan kick? He's another one of those aging boomers who hung on too long.
> another one of those aging boomers
How very disappointing, Mr. Nagle.
How very disappointing, Mr. Nagle.
please no