Ask HN: Is there no way to remove yourself from a delegated Gmail account?
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Trigger a password reset, use delegated access to reset the password, take over the account, remove delegation.
I believe the delegated access does not allow you to change passwords.
Sounds good unless you have 2FA
Find original email that delegated you access to the account, hit ""To reject this request, please click the link below:"
https://support.google.com/mail/thread/24721429/can-t-remove...
https://support.google.com/mail/thread/24721429/can-t-remove...
My assumption is that Gmail delegation is possible only with Suite/Workspace. Since she has access to that domain, ask one of the admins to do that. Otherwise, I have no idea how the public Gmail.com account can be delegated (this is a nice feature).
Otherwise, it might be a forward.
In that case, the only option is to add a filter -- if email is marked TO:[email protected], then mark as read, delete, not marked as important.
Otherwise, it might be a forward.
In that case, the only option is to add a filter -- if email is marked TO:[email protected], then mark as read, delete, not marked as important.
Delegation is possible with gmail.com, I’ve set it up when I created my parents email accounts. This person is trying to turn it off.
I’ve had about a dozen people over the years add my gmail.com account as the delegate and, luckily, Ive been able to decline since it looks like a real pain if I hadn’t.
I’ve had about a dozen people over the years add my gmail.com account as the delegate and, luckily, Ive been able to decline since it looks like a real pain if I hadn’t.
What is delegated email access?
It's allows the "delegated" gmail user to access the inbox, and send email on behalf of, another gmail user. It predates GSuite.
It's a useful feature for spouses or if you have a PA. Or in my case where my wife regularly points out she is effectively my and our children's PA...
It's a useful feature for spouses or if you have a PA. Or in my case where my wife regularly points out she is effectively my and our children's PA...
". Or in my case where my wife regularly points out she is effectively my and our children's PA"
As someone with aspegers it took me 30 years to realize this type of communication. It's so open but without emotion that I assume they don't care. The reality is often they are trying to be nice about expressing their frustration
As someone with aspegers it took me 30 years to realize this type of communication. It's so open but without emotion that I assume they don't care. The reality is often they are trying to be nice about expressing their frustration
That's impressive insight as many people I know without aspergers will often miss this sort of thing. Communication is hard.
So congratulations to you!
So congratulations to you!
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic so obviously I'm not there yet
I've said this sort of thing myself and every time genuinely either didn't care or said it out of some measure of pride. I wouldn't have thought people use it this way either.
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Same with plain forwarding. Yeah, doesn't make sense, after all you had to give permission to set this up - now there's no way to revoke. Just set up a filter and forget about it.
Several comments in this thread suggest solutions make no sense. Perhaps the commenters have never seen how delegated access works in Gmail?
Once you've been delegated access to a Gmail account, it appears in the list of accounts you can switch to, but only within the Gmail web UI.
When you explicitly switch to that account, you see the other person's mailbox. If you never click on the switcher, you wouldn't even remember you had access.
Given the above:
- filtering makes no sense, because the mail items never appear in the same mailbox anyway
- changing password makes no sense, as you can only access gmail and not the whole Google account
Once you've been delegated access to a Gmail account, it appears in the list of accounts you can switch to, but only within the Gmail web UI.
When you explicitly switch to that account, you see the other person's mailbox. If you never click on the switcher, you wouldn't even remember you had access.
Given the above:
- filtering makes no sense, because the mail items never appear in the same mailbox anyway
- changing password makes no sense, as you can only access gmail and not the whole Google account
Receiving a response from Google support is a win in and of itself. Unfortunately they didn’t help out, but most never get that far.
Sisyphean Support: sooooooooo close to the top on that one
Would suggest to keep delegated access but use automated filters in Gmail so that those mails:
- skip the inbox
- are automatically marked as read
- either deleted or place those mails in a separate and hidden folder
Painful memories should be avoided this way
Painful memories should be avoided this way
This is not how delegated access works. It doesn't affect how your own inbox looks at all.
To switch to the delegated mailbox, you need to choose it from the account drop down on the top right.
To switch to the delegated mailbox, you need to choose it from the account drop down on the top right.
Since you're delegated, I suppose you could plant a email in the inbox. I'm not sure if the legality of this though.
I don't have any particularly useful suggestions, but I wonder if this falls under the can-spam act?
I use fastmail and use sieve filtering to reject all emails I don't want. They don't even show up in my email account, there is no record of them.
If i'm honest it makes sense the admin should do it. For the person invited to uninvite themselves after is a bit weird.
Why is that weird? If I have an account, that has been given access to some resource, it makes sense that I can remove access to that resource myself, just like the admin could. It is my account after all.
Imagine if someone could invite you to a calendar event, but you can't clear it from your own calendar if you say no. How does that make sense?
Imagine if someone could invite you to a calendar event, but you can't clear it from your own calendar if you say no. How does that make sense?
There was recently a spam group that would use Google Calendar Events to spam you in your calendar. They stopped for a while ago, seems like Google needs more spammers like these in order to get this problem solved.
"Opt out" of any online service or communications should be a human right
It could be a law. I feel like calling it a human right cheapens what those are
Isn't this a part of the right to rectification in the GDPR?
In this case it’s not about rectification (the information is factually correct), but you can remove your consent to the processing our your personal data for this purpose.
I'd think the admin should know if their delegate doesn't want to be so, before the time comes they're needed. The current system seems set up as 'oh, you can't login, let's ask your ex you just had a bitter divorce with for help', which isn't great for either party.
> For the person invited to uninvite themselves after is a bit weird.
If I invite you to my party and you agree, your not allowed to leave before I allow you. Yours sincerely, Vlad Drăculea
If I invite you to my party and you agree, your not allowed to leave before I allow you. Yours sincerely, Vlad Drăculea
If you aren’t a Googler, you should be. “[description of their assumed use case], therefore [forcing something on the user]” is the right mindset.
As a developer with pretty good product instincts, my first reaction is always “WTH? Why did someone implement this” and then there is someone in the comments who defends the situation and thinks this is the way it SHOULD be implemented.
That’s the best part about these problem reports on HN: It answers those Why would and Who would questions.
That’s the best part about these problem reports on HN: It answers those Why would and Who would questions.
I've been looking into this and seen multiple forum threads of people delegated access by ex's, relatives who have passed away and the like who are unable to remove themselves from this access even if it's extremely painful.
It blows my mind that this isn't a feature that exists or that Google can't help you remove your _own_ delegated access.
Anyone encountered this before and found a solution?