Julian Assange Confirms Internet Restored at Ecuadorian Embassy(repubblica.it)
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Julian Assange Confirms Internet Restored at Ecuadorian Embassy
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/12/23/news/assange_wikileaks-154754000/
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For starters it was only a 70k vote differences between the electoral college win, so about anything small could have made a difference.
The leaks itself were only small and didn't contain so much, but they were amplified with big dis-information campaign that surely must have depressed Democratic turnout to some degree. Especially the leaks focused on demotivating the former Bernie supporters, to support their (imo wrongly) narrative that the primaries were rigged against Bernie by the DNC.
The leaks itself were only small and didn't contain so much, but they were amplified with big dis-information campaign that surely must have depressed Democratic turnout to some degree. Especially the leaks focused on demotivating the former Bernie supporters, to support their (imo wrongly) narrative that the primaries were rigged against Bernie by the DNC.
You realise you are just inventing another way to 'delegitimise' elections.
If there is even the tiniest wrong doing the US is an advanced country with a sophisticated infrastructure, legal process and rule of law to oversee fair elections.
Surely any hint of wrong doing should be pursued aggresively through the US courts than smear campaigns and innuendo in media that seek to cast apersions and undermine the very process and results of free and fair elections.
How do you propose to hold free and fair election or call for them now if any loser can now seek to delegitimise the results by pointing to 'propaganda' and 'hidden forces'? Because if your position is 'people can be misled by propaganda' then this position negates the basis of democratic elections.
This is against common sense, due process and rule of law. This 'burn the house down' strategy by losers cannot be accepted in any civilised society governed by law.
If there is even the tiniest wrong doing the US is an advanced country with a sophisticated infrastructure, legal process and rule of law to oversee fair elections.
Surely any hint of wrong doing should be pursued aggresively through the US courts than smear campaigns and innuendo in media that seek to cast apersions and undermine the very process and results of free and fair elections.
How do you propose to hold free and fair election or call for them now if any loser can now seek to delegitimise the results by pointing to 'propaganda' and 'hidden forces'? Because if your position is 'people can be misled by propaganda' then this position negates the basis of democratic elections.
This is against common sense, due process and rule of law. This 'burn the house down' strategy by losers cannot be accepted in any civilised society governed by law.
For anyone who thinks the leaks did not contain anything, here are the 50 most damaging Wikileaks:
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
How did Hillary became the prime candidate even when it was Bernie that had high turnout? DNC leadership favored Hillary blindly, thats why. If the leadership was neutral Bernie would've been the main candidate by popular vote. If the race was between Bernie and Trump, Bernie would've win.
Not to mention that all most all media channels were bashing anything Trump but actively not reporting bad things about Hillary. Even the slightest negative about Trump got coverage whereas Hillary was safe from such media bashing. If Trump and Hillary where given neutral and equal coverage, then Trump would've gotten even higher vote.
Not to mention that all most all media channels were bashing anything Trump but actively not reporting bad things about Hillary. Even the slightest negative about Trump got coverage whereas Hillary was safe from such media bashing. If Trump and Hillary where given neutral and equal coverage, then Trump would've gotten even higher vote.
There seems to be some dispute regarding the truthfulness of such reports.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereIsAssange/comments/5k2zkc/juli...
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereIsAssange/comments/5k2zkc/juli...
If 'SuperPoop' and 'Fuego' asked on reddit counts, then there would seem to be 'some dispute' about just about anything you can think of.
Your comment is valid and I shouldn't be laughing so hard right now.
Yes, I wanted to be charitable and high-minded and just point out that none of these people are actually disputing anything, merely asking some questions. But when I saw the intrepid investigators were SuperPoop and Fuego...
The la Repubblica article linked from there I found much more interesting a read as it includes the whole transcript of the interview: http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/12/23/news/assange_wiki...
Thank you. We changed the URL from http://vesselnews.io/wikileaks-julian-assange-confirms-inter..., which is lifted from this original source.
Proof of life, please.
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Forget the US elections, if you are running an election and you lose 'because of leaks' what is the rational response. Blame the leaker, blame your indiscretion, blame your own actions?
The post election narrative has become surreal with the cartoonish rhetoric of 'enemies' and 'russia did it'.
Why is Russia an enemy? What has Russia done to the USA? Instead of acting like a responsible member of the international community we are ratcheting up tension, hate and hysteria with no evidence. This is the definition of demonization and propaganda.
On the other hand we unironically place nukes at Russia's borders via NATO an organization whose reason to exist is anti-russian, stir up trouble in Ukraine, practiced some extremly dubious 'shock doctrine' economics by the Chicago school in the 90s that destroyed what was left of the economy and directly led to the Russian oligarchies and follow a distinctly anti-russia global policy. Let's not be blind to reason.