Silicon Valley billionaires are ‘prepping’ to survive in underground bunkers(recode.net)
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Silicon Valley billionaires are ‘prepping’ to survive in underground bunkers
http://www.recode.net/2017/1/23/14354840/silicon-valley-billionaires-prepping-survive-underground-bunkers-new-yorker
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Ah, the illusion that one can separate oneself from you human society and survive indefinitely. We had the biosphere, we had the sovjet cold war era bunkers, and under tests- the results where always the same. Insufficiently prepared, longterm psychological effects not calculated in - the buried alive envying the dead on the surface.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
Or maybe they're planning to stay in the bunkers only until 90% of the population has died off (I hear amazing things can happen in 100 days) and then they'll return to the surface.
amazing?
Amazingly bad.
Traditionally, oligarchs do not bunker in- they send future rebels and unrests into futile wars- where they have to bunker in, fighting the poor and downtrodden of the other side.
So everyone is in a bunker, but the richest.. strange they do build these. What a irony, that nukes would take those "pressure" release valves of the 20 Century away.
Communicating with other survivors should solve that. If it doesn't solve that, then space exploration and Mars settlement are also destined to fail. I think that some portion of the population can be fine without human contact, hermits are a thing.
Some of us do quite well on our own thank you. Human society is over-rated.
The man says to his peers on the global communications network.
It would be a blessing to be free of this addicting sensory-overloading electronic monkey.
Don't feed the troll, everyone.
Seriously, I grew up on a farm. I spent many days alone with my own thoughts. That's inconceivable today. But in the event of a societal meltdown there will be a demographic of survivors that won't mind the quiet. They will be over 50.
The food and water lines will spread cross the country like wild fire. The rich and prepared can have their bunkiers but unless they have military training and a militia with tight communication there's little to stop what is inevitable. Someone like me, hungry and with no empathy, a 12 gauge will show up and take what ever you have. There will be no salvation. No one will be safe. people like you think you are more prepared. You were just preparing for someone else younger and stronger to take your shit.
> The rich and prepared can have their bunkiers but unless they have military training and a militia with tight communication there's little to stop what is inevitable.
If the bunkers are well stocked with supplies, then it only takes a very small cadre for the rich to rapidly be able to scale up to a militia more capable than anyone without supply stockpiles is going to be able to put together, and then actively target and acquire (whether by force or cooperation deals) the smaller stockpiles that exist and consolidate their power.
If the bunkers are well stocked with supplies, then it only takes a very small cadre for the rich to rapidly be able to scale up to a militia more capable than anyone without supply stockpiles is going to be able to put together, and then actively target and acquire (whether by force or cooperation deals) the smaller stockpiles that exist and consolidate their power.
I'm certain these bunkers take into account people trying to break into them...
What exactly are we talking about here?
What exactly are we talking about here?
I think all this is, is the veracity of a hungry mass with nothing to lose.
What if stalin has drilling crews?
"Younger and stronger" isn't the same as 'a better shot'. Think about that before trying to close with that shotgun.
Hopefully no one is hunting a predator with a shotgun long range but it makes for good internet forum keyword attention grabbing. younger and stronger isn't just a metaphor, when supplies get thin the most capable will take what they want. Maybe not younger but mostly younger.
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You know the wealthy could doomsday prep or they could support social/educational programs and support paying higher taxes. The sooner we realize that we are all in this together, the better.
Why give anything up when they can just live in a parallel world and not have to deal with us plebs?
Because us plebs clean the toilets and oil the robots?
Yeah, good luck with that! The Grand Tour recently entertained the madness of prepping and survivalists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8trdXpQ0HUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8trdXpQ0HUE
think that might be the wrong youtube link...
Nope, that's the right link. The whole segment was about Richard Hammond prepping for the apocalypse. They didn't share the entire segment, but just the last couple of minutes where the 'impenetrable' Hamster was defeated by a single shot.
Of course it's not real, and it's a silly show, but the idea of spending a good deal of time and money beyond reasonable emergency precautions is pretty useless as well.
And that was the point.
Of course it's not real, and it's a silly show, but the idea of spending a good deal of time and money beyond reasonable emergency precautions is pretty useless as well.
And that was the point.
That looks like a fun show. Maybe a reason to stream my first amazon series. Episode 9 looks like it could be the apocalypse. "Richard Hammond creates a machine to protect him from a future apocalypse"
Domesday prepping is completely irrational.
Something something worker ownership of the means of production something something.
Seriously though, workers should be the first to benefit from automating their own jobs out of existence. It's been over a hundred years since marxists talked about what they perceived as the inherent contradictions of a capitalist system. Automation and the struggle for a livelihood in the face of falling wages and growing profits isn't new. Technology has changed but the fundamental conflicts remain unsolved. So while we can all debate here about the effectiveness of bunkers, we're glossing over the systemic problems that necessitate the capitalist class to hide in bunkers in the first place. At least we've moved on to the point where most recognize that there could be an existential problem accelerating toward us.
One thing I'm sure of, the class of YC 2035 will have great uber-for-bunker-security apps.