Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive(blog.lenovo.com)
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Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive
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I hope not. Except for a few choice models (the T4-T6 era "FlexView" IPS panels), the screens in ThinkPads have not been exceptional at all. Even the IPS choices were a total lottery.
Good point. I guess I'm influenced by the ones that were good.
Make it a damned good panel, Lenovo.
How do we interact with our machines? Display, keyboard, trackpad, Touchpoint. If those are second class, our whole experience is going to be second class.
(Speakers, I can always plug in or hook up. And I don't use the webcam much; that may differ for others.)
Make it a damned good panel, Lenovo.
How do we interact with our machines? Display, keyboard, trackpad, Touchpoint. If those are second class, our whole experience is going to be second class.
(Speakers, I can always plug in or hook up. And I don't use the webcam much; that may differ for others.)
I would love an affordable and lightweight 13" ThinkPad like laptop (or any brand as long as it's good and reliable) where I can install an up and coming Linux distro like ElementaryOS after my old MacBook Air dies.
No, I am not going to buy those costly alternatives Apple has lined up after it's obvious they are killing Air (even though there might be a new one coming with almost just one tiny tweak).
But then again, Lenovo pretty much destryoed the ThinkPad brand and is on the path to do the same to the Moto range with their substandard quality and even worse service.
No, I am not going to buy those costly alternatives Apple has lined up after it's obvious they are killing Air (even though there might be a new one coming with almost just one tiny tweak).
But then again, Lenovo pretty much destryoed the ThinkPad brand and is on the path to do the same to the Moto range with their substandard quality and even worse service.
Can't wait for this laptop. I just hope they make enough of them and we don't have a fiasco similar to that of nintendo.
I wish more companies could just work on refining their products. It seems that many new products are no better than their predecessors, and in some cases they seem worse as companies strive to differentiate themselves at the cost of functionality.
I like the sound of a new ThinkPad.
I like the sound of a new ThinkPad.
Laptops are mature tech and smartphone are becoming that too.
We are to the point where refinement won't attract customers. That's because all companies will eventually make close enough products so that price will become the differentiating factor. And the last thing companies want is a price war.
And they want you to continue buying their stuff too. They won't have it with products that just work.
And they want you to continue buying their stuff too. They won't have it with products that just work.
That's my take on the mobile phone market. Pointless money and effort wasted every year rather than keeping the current perfectly good phone going with further OS updates.
I am glad to hear that they didn't stop working on this.
The Thinkpad line has a cult-like following like Apple products. It would help in difficult times, but the brand needs to reinvent itself like how Apple did. I would certainly love to see new products coming out with Thinkpad quality, durability, user-friendliness (the Linux crowd), and support.
It used to have a cult-like following. I'm know some still exist, but everyone I know who would have quit a job over not being able to use a Thinkpad has long since moved on. Including myself. Those that remain are the types who will use 10 year old laptops willingly.
Lenovo ruined the Thinkpad brand entirely. I'm hopeful for this old school return of a "quality tank of a laptop with a real keyboard" but we'll see. Recent track record tells me this won't be super interesting.
If I could get a modern-spec Thinkpad with a Macbook pro quality screen and the old school Thinkpad keyboard I'd be on board in a hot minute.
Lenovo ruined the Thinkpad brand entirely. I'm hopeful for this old school return of a "quality tank of a laptop with a real keyboard" but we'll see. Recent track record tells me this won't be super interesting.
If I could get a modern-spec Thinkpad with a Macbook pro quality screen and the old school Thinkpad keyboard I'd be on board in a hot minute.
I'm pretty disappointed with the specs on most Lenovo laptops anymore. Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? I'd die for a slightly thicker laptop that had good specs at a price that's more reasonable. No joke, you'd be much better with a used 2012 MBP than nearly any recent Thinkpad. I have an X1 Carbon that is just pathetic. With Apple going the direction it is, I really wish there was an alternative.
> Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays?
Because nowadays they are up to usual tasks while allowing long battery life and light, compact devices.
If you want more than a U processor, the T470p and the P51/71 are for you (Core i7-7820HQ or even Xeon E3-1535M v6 possible).
Because nowadays they are up to usual tasks while allowing long battery life and light, compact devices.
If you want more than a U processor, the T470p and the P51/71 are for you (Core i7-7820HQ or even Xeon E3-1535M v6 possible).
I understand that _most people_ aren't going to need big processors. But truth be told, I had a lot of trouble finding something that even had a remotely good processor that didn't start over $1200. It feels like a lot of laptops marketed toward professionals are now coming with ULV, and that makes it hard to find laptops that are actually suitable for my heavy usage. (I since switched to a desktop because of this exact problem.)
But, now that you pointed it out, the T470p looks excellent. Browsing their site, I would've never found this, or at least I certainly didn't a while back when I was in the market.
But, now that you pointed it out, the T470p looks excellent. Browsing their site, I would've never found this, or at least I certainly didn't a while back when I was in the market.
> Browsing their site, I would've never found this
I don't blame you, the Lenovo website is utter crap in almost every respect.
I don't blame you, the Lenovo website is utter crap in almost every respect.
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Your recipy almost matches my dream laptop:
15'' ThinkPad, ca. 2005 era
KabyLake quad or more cores, maxed out memory
rMBP screen
All thinkpad ports in their modern incarnations (gigabit ether, USB 3.1, hdmi), add 1-2 USB-C
rMBP Touchpad before it became Forcetouch
Essentially, give me the Ford F-150 raptor of laptops. And I'm saying this as a European ;).
15'' ThinkPad, ca. 2005 era
KabyLake quad or more cores, maxed out memory
rMBP screen
All thinkpad ports in their modern incarnations (gigabit ether, USB 3.1, hdmi), add 1-2 USB-C
rMBP Touchpad before it became Forcetouch
Essentially, give me the Ford F-150 raptor of laptops. And I'm saying this as a European ;).
Funny that you say that; there's a project out there aiming to do just that (their last effort was a modern motherboard for an X61; this new one is for the T60).
You can find it here (translated link): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&p...
You can find it here (translated link): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&p...
I'm currently using a 2013 MacBook Pro and my only interaction with the Force Touch trackpads has been in Apple stores, but what do you dislike about them?
I haven't had a chance to try them for long enough to form an opinion and I'm curious about potential annoyances if/when I upgrade to a newer model.
Personally I'd love to see the 12.9" 4:3 display from an iPad Pro in a Thinkpad retro.
I haven't had a chance to try them for long enough to form an opinion and I'm curious about potential annoyances if/when I upgrade to a newer model.
Personally I'd love to see the 12.9" 4:3 display from an iPad Pro in a Thinkpad retro.
FYI, there's a setting that controls the forcetouch click, Light/Medium/Firm. If you set it to Firm, it will feel the same as before.
"Firm" doesn't feel at all like it was before.
(And, put those, at least as a consistent option, into the rest of your professional line, Lenovo. Really, it's become ridiculous, at this point.)
I really hope there will be no component/FRU lottery. I'd rather wait for the best part than worry whether I'll get the good LCD or the one that's washed out or with banding, perceptible PWM flicker, image-burn, you name it. Rather know I'm getting the right keyboard, than worry about squish, roll, etc. affecting my typing. Etc.