Martin Shkreli is buying websites associated with the names of journalists(businessinsider.com)
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Martin Shkreli is buying websites associated with the names of journalists
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“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” -grrm
Attacking the media seems to be really popular these days. What is Martin afraid of?
Attacking the media seems to be really popular these days. What is Martin afraid of?
Ugh. I hate to be the guy to defend him, but watch a YouTube video of the guy. He's just a troll. He doesn't hate poor people. He hates the media... I don't really want to explain why but there's a video of him talking to an 18 yr old kid and it became obvious he wasn't evil, he's just a dick for sport to people that want to make him look evil. I put down my pitchfork at that point.
This is morally absurd. He is "a dick for sport" to say the very least, and is entirely unmoved to the harm he causes other. Having an ironic affectation doesn't somehow mean you're not evil, it just means you aren't willing to directly face how bad you are. Many people we describe as evil are similar and it earns him no slack.
I'm not aware of any harm he caused; the $600 medicine thing could have harmed the uninsured I suppose, but being uninsured already means you'll get fucked by any medical bills anyways. So the fucked stay fucked, and he didn't change much to that equation. Afaik no, or few, new fucked people exist by that action.
The event should have brought attention to the absurd dependence on insurance Americans have to have, and the fact that it gets worse by a positive feedback loop (as insurance companies extend their "benefit" range, the relevant market increases their price to make use it, so more people need to get insurance to see "proper" pricing, which means insurance now has enough power/money to further increase their "benefits"). Afaik he just participated in the feedback loop, but made no effort to affect it (nor should he; its a macro-level government-scale problem)
The event should have brought attention to the absurd dependence on insurance Americans have to have, and the fact that it gets worse by a positive feedback loop (as insurance companies extend their "benefit" range, the relevant market increases their price to make use it, so more people need to get insurance to see "proper" pricing, which means insurance now has enough power/money to further increase their "benefits"). Afaik he just participated in the feedback loop, but made no effort to affect it (nor should he; its a macro-level government-scale problem)
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/online-harassment-lauren-duca...
Read this article. Seriously. Ignoring any potential "actual" harm his business practices may have inflicted, he is a toxic person who doesn't care what his effects his trolling has in the real world. He's inspiring people to threaten and harass people online. Someone took pizzagate seriously enough to act on it in the real world - how long until someone does the same here and shows up at Lauren's or her parent's house, or actually rapes her?
Read this article. Seriously. Ignoring any potential "actual" harm his business practices may have inflicted, he is a toxic person who doesn't care what his effects his trolling has in the real world. He's inspiring people to threaten and harass people online. Someone took pizzagate seriously enough to act on it in the real world - how long until someone does the same here and shows up at Lauren's or her parent's house, or actually rapes her?
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“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
― Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Mother Night
― Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Mother Night
He doesn't hate poor people, he just doesn't mind making lots of money at their expense.
You say he's a "dick for sport" but you forgot to add "and also for money".
You say he's a "dick for sport" but you forgot to add "and also for money".
> he wasn't evil, he's just a dick for sport
I'm not entirely sure how you define evil, but it seems to be very different from how I do it.
I'm not entirely sure how you define evil, but it seems to be very different from how I do it.
Oh I see, he didn't jack up the price of medication by absurd amounts because he was trying to make money, he was just trolling the media!
/sarcasm
/sarcasm
And what do you have to say to those who were sick and suffered for their health or their wallet because of this guy's trolling?
I'm sick of hearing "he's just a troll". He, and many others labeled as "just trolls" cause material harm to people.
Not to mention he was found guilty of fraud, not of being a troll.
I'm sick of hearing "he's just a troll". He, and many others labeled as "just trolls" cause material harm to people.
Not to mention he was found guilty of fraud, not of being a troll.
He's the poster boy for dysfunctional capitalism. He got busted profiteering off of dying people. Lot's of people are sick and sociopathic to the core like him buy he is the one who had the flashlight pointed at his particular roach nest. Instead of trying to be better a better person, he and the other dysfunctional capitalists are trying to punish the people holding them accountable.
Classic despotic strategy.
My understanding is that he got busted illegally using money from one of his businesses to prop up another one of his businesses.
He was actually found not guilty of that charge. The charges he was found guilty related to him lying to investors when he lost their money in a hedge fund he operated. According to the jury, he felt bad about this and made them whole by paying them back in stock. All said and done--everyone made money, including some his accusers who made 10x their original investment.
Did we forget that he jacked the price of Daraprim up from 13$ to 750$?
Nobody's saying he's not an asshole, but he wasn't convicted of being an asshole or of raising drug prices.
That wasn't what I was referring to. I was referring to when he jacked up the price of a lifesaving drug from $13 dollars to $750 dollars to increase profits...
Thats profiteering not profiting...
Thats profiteering not profiting...
I guess I'm not sure what "getting busted" means, then.
Nothing of what you said is actually true, in fact it sounds exactly like what most journalists say about Shkreli, and the reason why he hates them.
He jacked up the price of a lifesaving drug to make his shareholders profits?
Thats called profiteering, not profiting.
How is that not psychopathic?
Thats called profiteering, not profiting.
How is that not psychopathic?
He jacked up the price for insurance companies, individuals paid 1$ if they have no insurance. He considered it a robber baron technique to get funding for new drug research to charge the insurance companies, whom have lots of $$ for PR firms to twist the narrative in the MSM, big pharma is a thing. If you think he some sort of evil villain you've eaten the PR.
I dont understand, if he didn't do anything illegal what is the problem? It only brings light on the laws that made it happen right?
There's still a difference between legal and ethical. There's also a difference between innocent now and slander later. The potential for abuse is real.
It's still quite possible to be a completely legal asshole. I'm surprised this is news.
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