Paige Thompson, Capital One Hacking Suspect, Left a Trail Online(nytimes.com)
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Paige Thompson, Capital One Hacking Suspect, Left a Trail Online
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/business/paige-thompson-capital-one-hack.html
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Krebs has a good write up on this [1]. The part I found most interesting is there appears to be a couple dozen companies compromised by Paige, Cap One is the only one I have seen in the news.
1: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/07/capital-one-data-theft-i...
1: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/07/capital-one-data-theft-i...
A fine example of why the push for encryption backdoors is wrong-footed: we can reliably trust people to be idiots online, regardless of intent or skill level.
good opsec is hard; middling opsec is reasonably easy; "not bragging about your mad sploits on twitter" is nothing we can trust humans to reasonably do, apparently!
good opsec is hard; middling opsec is reasonably easy; "not bragging about your mad sploits on twitter" is nothing we can trust humans to reasonably do, apparently!
I agree: there is no such thing as "the perfect crime" and the use of end-to-end encryption does not make it so. What there is a however is a lack of good, old-fashioned police-work in criminal cases where the police run up against end-to-end encryption.
I was confused by this line in the affidavit (page 9):
> An April 19, 2019, post in the Github account of "paige•••••thompson" includes a "Server List" of IP addresses associated with the account.
What Github "post" could this be referring to? A README.md/issue/comment in which she for some reason posted the IP addresses she uses with that account?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/press-release/file/1188626...
> An April 19, 2019, post in the Github account of "paige•••••thompson" includes a "Server List" of IP addresses associated with the account.
What Github "post" could this be referring to? A README.md/issue/comment in which she for some reason posted the IP addresses she uses with that account?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/press-release/file/1188626...
They also left a GitLab trail - https://gitlab.com/netcrave. We are looking at erratic, whereas they were https://github.com/netcrave
“Honestly if I were president I would give her an immediate pardon. Either she is innocent and is being rather unsubtly framed, or she is guilty and no punishment can compare to the embarrassment of being caught like this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-30/tipster-s...
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-30/beyond...
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-30/beyond...
It seems like she had mental problems. Hopefully she gets help instead of the gov't seeking retribution.
its like she wanted to get caught
So this guy is a crazy braggart. This isn't the first time this has happened. Some other guy was taunting the FBI and left metadata in one of his images when he posted to Twitter.
It's best to not be loud in the first place.
It's best to not be loud in the first place.
> So this guy is a crazy braggart.
Clearly not a guy
Clearly not a guy
Not so clearly.
Say what you will about using the desired pronouns, Paige is extremely androgynous. Saying she is "Clearly not a guy" is inaccurate.
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Guy can be used in a gender-neutral sense, though it's not really good grammar. Most romance languages use male for a collective group; people often replicate this in English (though not always, as not all our words for groups carry gender). Some people then extend this back to the singular, i.e. "hey (many) guys" -> "hey (one) guy".
Edit: Down-votes care to comment why?
Edit: Down-votes care to comment why?
Plural 'guys' is increasingly gender neutral but that hasn't extended to the singular 'guy' at all.
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I don’t understand why he would brag about it online. Isn’t that just asking to be caught??
Don't underestimate the power of ego. For most people it's their most powerful driving force. I cannot speak to her motivations. There is more than one plausible reason someone would expose themselves IF she in fact did and wasn't set up. But people "own" themselves all the time despite how intuitively ridiculous it sounds from the armchair.
Is it not meant damnable in us to be trumpeters of our unlawful intents?
*she
I used to feel what you likely feel about paying for news—why would i pay for this when some other site will have it up for free or with ads, capitalism at work, competition driving the price down to reasonable levels, etc...
Then I realized after seeing what has happened as the masses all came online, while many of us here can probably distinguish between a reliable news source and a hack site or a propaganda outlet—a disturbingly large segment of the population can not.
And to make matters worse, there seems to be a huge number of people who don’t realize they don’t have what it takes to do reliable research to write a story and they don’t have what it takes to understand nuanced subjects in order to explain the subject to readers. Or even worse, they fully realize how ill-equipped they are but don’t care because vulnerable people will still click their ads.
Long story short, I now have just short of 20 subscriptions. Including a few that I rarely read but to me it’s worth it. The collective We really need to increase the signal levels in order to hear over the noise.
Journalism is definitely one of those cases where The Market can easily lead to a race to the bottom situation. Hopefully we’ll see it correct and good journalism will overtake trash, but wow what a rough spot.
Then I realized after seeing what has happened as the masses all came online, while many of us here can probably distinguish between a reliable news source and a hack site or a propaganda outlet—a disturbingly large segment of the population can not.
And to make matters worse, there seems to be a huge number of people who don’t realize they don’t have what it takes to do reliable research to write a story and they don’t have what it takes to understand nuanced subjects in order to explain the subject to readers. Or even worse, they fully realize how ill-equipped they are but don’t care because vulnerable people will still click their ads.
Long story short, I now have just short of 20 subscriptions. Including a few that I rarely read but to me it’s worth it. The collective We really need to increase the signal levels in order to hear over the noise.
Journalism is definitely one of those cases where The Market can easily lead to a race to the bottom situation. Hopefully we’ll see it correct and good journalism will overtake trash, but wow what a rough spot.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20567021 and marked it off-topic.
In the context of HN, I don't think that solves the problem. What are the odds that your 20 subscriptions and my 20 subscriptions will overlap? (To say nothing about excluding people who can't afford 20 subscriptions.) In order to have a meaningful discussion about a topic, we needn't necessarily have the same subscriptions. But to have a meaningful discussion about the article, we certainly both need access to the article.
Pay-per-article might make some sense, but every time I've seen that they've charged more than I think it's worth. They generally want about a dollar, and I'm thinking pennies. And, of course, I have to decide whether it's worth purchasing before I've read it; at which point it comes down to trusting the publisher - and then maybe I should just get a subscription.
Pay-per-article might make some sense, but every time I've seen that they've charged more than I think it's worth. They generally want about a dollar, and I'm thinking pennies. And, of course, I have to decide whether it's worth purchasing before I've read it; at which point it comes down to trusting the publisher - and then maybe I should just get a subscription.
> What are the odds that your 20 subscriptions and my 20 subscriptions will overlap?
The odds that they will completely overlap are low. However, most people don't have 20. Even those who do mostly read a number of prominent sources: nyt, wapo, wsj are the big three for news these days. Most people subscribe to one, maybe two and read that. This is arguably bad for competition and bad for "indie journalism".
Also, I take issue with some of the points of view espoused by the nyt. Their news content is fairly good (if biased), but my subscription would also go to pay their editorial board. I don't want to purchase that news, because I don't want to fund its production. I wish I could buy a news-only subscription: no "lifestyle", no "fashion", no "editorial", etc. I don't want that stuff. Just news.
The odds that they will completely overlap are low. However, most people don't have 20. Even those who do mostly read a number of prominent sources: nyt, wapo, wsj are the big three for news these days. Most people subscribe to one, maybe two and read that. This is arguably bad for competition and bad for "indie journalism".
Also, I take issue with some of the points of view espoused by the nyt. Their news content is fairly good (if biased), but my subscription would also go to pay their editorial board. I don't want to purchase that news, because I don't want to fund its production. I wish I could buy a news-only subscription: no "lifestyle", no "fashion", no "editorial", etc. I don't want that stuff. Just news.
This was the kick in the pants I needed to finally subscribe. Thanks.
I don’t pay for news. Ever.
I would pay to never see "news" again. Bombarded every day by meaningless trivialities wrapped in opinion. If something important happened that I needed to know about, I'd probably miss it for all the celebrity gossip and political posturing that actually makes the front page.
How are we getting past the NYT PayWall now?
Subscription is on sale for $1 a week
If you're on desktop, isn't it trivial enough to remove/reset cookies from the nytimes.com domain?
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If you paste the link into archive.is, it’ll often be already archived or it will save a fresh copy.
I would encourage people — if they can afford it — to pay for a few media sites online.
I would encourage people — if they can afford it — to pay for a few media sites online.
I guess outline.com doesn't work ? damn these paywalls
This has worked pretty well for getting me past the paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/subscription
We need to re-learn to pay for journalism. Well funded independent journalists is critical to a working society. If you can afford it, please consider taking the paywall as a cue to consider getting a subscription.
Nyt needs to show a bit better restraint before I can consider funding them for 'good journalism'. I can and do subscribe to/fund what I find to be reliably good journalism.
Miss Thompson wins the Darwin Award for black hats. Seriously, she did a horrible job. Clearly a supremely over-confident script kiddie who went around talking about being such a 1337 h4x0r... until the cops showed up.
Serves her right, any way. You've got to be a pretty bad person to put the information of that many people at risk.
Serves her right, any way. You've got to be a pretty bad person to put the information of that many people at risk.
If we assume that Ms. Thompson is generally terrible at opsec, then presumably she is also terrible at offensive security, which leads to one of two conclusions:
Either:
A: She is being framed.
or
B: Capital One's security was (and probably still is) laughable.
She doesn't seem to be being framed. If Capital One's security is horrendous, they are unlikely to be exceptional... so we will see much more of this.
Either:
A: She is being framed.
or
B: Capital One's security was (and probably still is) laughable.
She doesn't seem to be being framed. If Capital One's security is horrendous, they are unlikely to be exceptional... so we will see much more of this.
> If we assume that Ms. Thompson is generally terrible at opsec, then presumably she is also terrible at offensive security,
One can possess great technical skills and still be a braggart. Nothing about a lack of OPSEC implies she cannot exploit a vulnerable system.
One can possess great technical skills and still be a braggart. Nothing about a lack of OPSEC implies she cannot exploit a vulnerable system.
This tweet alone seems to indicate she definitely did it...
https://twitter.com/0xA3A97B6C/status/1151901325598187521
https://twitter.com/0xA3A97B6C/status/1151901325598187521
Isn’t all of that anyway in AWS docs ?
Would something like this stand as an evidence to implicate her in US courts?
She was only transwoman allowed in the ZCLUB per mgt. She got drugged and used as scapegoat. I woke up in Swedish Edmonds. Idiots let me go once they realized my comps were at my hotel. I screamed I'm gonnna be pissed if I miss my hotel brunch. It was 2a not afternoon. Claim I assaulted 4 shorelines PD. Never hit anyone in my life. I lack fight or flight, no stimuli hence was great at piecing this together and my partner and I dodged a ton of traps ourself. Palantir is here folks and it starts with the gays for monied daddies
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