Ask HN: How would you go about introducing your children to technology?
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I have 2 kids, 9 and 3.
General rules:
- Tech use (and media for that matter) is all on a "ask permission" basis. Often it's a reward too, but it doesn't have to be. Basically they can't just grab it when they want.
- Generally, my rule is that all tech use is supervised. All usage is in the living room / kitchen area with an adult present who can monitor them.
There are some exceptions to "unsupervised use" like my 9 year old and his 2DS where there is limited amount of trouble he can get into. On a long car ride he can sit in the back and use that as he wishes. Same goes with the Nintendo Switch (he can't access the store).
Things I've forbidden:
- No unsupervised use of media or tech, with the few exceptions mentioned.
- YouTube kids. I tried it and at the time there was NO "white listed only" option so basically they had full run of YouTube kids and I quickly found I did not like that. Tons of inane content and even content you "blocked" was still available in slightly different forms. It was absolutely FLOODED with videos that were just pushing merch. It was like video dystopia ... for kids.
- No use of apps or media I haven't reviewed to some extent first.
Things I like:
- Anything from PBS.
Things I do that i'm not always proud of:
- At a restaurant give a wiggly kid the phone and an app to play with (still supervised), sometimes you're just too tired to entertain and need some quiet.
- While I'm doing some work turn on the TV and run a show for them... sometimes you do what you gotta do to stay sane / get other things done.
General rules:
- Tech use (and media for that matter) is all on a "ask permission" basis. Often it's a reward too, but it doesn't have to be. Basically they can't just grab it when they want.
- Generally, my rule is that all tech use is supervised. All usage is in the living room / kitchen area with an adult present who can monitor them.
There are some exceptions to "unsupervised use" like my 9 year old and his 2DS where there is limited amount of trouble he can get into. On a long car ride he can sit in the back and use that as he wishes. Same goes with the Nintendo Switch (he can't access the store).
Things I've forbidden:
- No unsupervised use of media or tech, with the few exceptions mentioned.
- YouTube kids. I tried it and at the time there was NO "white listed only" option so basically they had full run of YouTube kids and I quickly found I did not like that. Tons of inane content and even content you "blocked" was still available in slightly different forms. It was absolutely FLOODED with videos that were just pushing merch. It was like video dystopia ... for kids.
- No use of apps or media I haven't reviewed to some extent first.
Things I like:
- Anything from PBS.
Things I do that i'm not always proud of:
- At a restaurant give a wiggly kid the phone and an app to play with (still supervised), sometimes you're just too tired to entertain and need some quiet.
- While I'm doing some work turn on the TV and run a show for them... sometimes you do what you gotta do to stay sane / get other things done.
Solid advice. I would add that under 3 years they don't need any screen time or any kind of tech - they just cannot get bored.
At our house the phones are off limits for them. Very limited screen time (1-2 videos or the same old David Attenborough movie 'till dinner is ready) and there is an agreement between us and the kids that they can start computer/phone usage when they learn to read and write.
At our house the phones are off limits for them. Very limited screen time (1-2 videos or the same old David Attenborough movie 'till dinner is ready) and there is an agreement between us and the kids that they can start computer/phone usage when they learn to read and write.
First, I'd check what your local school district is doing. Many of them are introducing coding classes as young as 1st grade. Those districts will bring your kids up on tech in such a way that you can be more limited at home.
On the flip side, some districts are still living in the 70s, and their tech classes are little more than typing classes. In those cases, you do need to teach them yourselves.
And many districts are somewhere in the middle. But I'd suggest figuring out what they'll be learning outside of the home, and just fill in gaps at home.
On the flip side, some districts are still living in the 70s, and their tech classes are little more than typing classes. In those cases, you do need to teach them yourselves.
And many districts are somewhere in the middle. But I'd suggest figuring out what they'll be learning outside of the home, and just fill in gaps at home.
Let them go to a programing class :)
My grandmother used to give me her old computers, starting with Windows ME. I would tinker around on them and explore. I learned about what GNU/Linux was from a friend in 9th grade & started distributing-hopping and breaking stuff. It should all come naturally. OP, they’ll need to be curious. That’s how we all got into this in the first place. Curiosity.
I ended up getting my son into programming by using codakid.com as he was obsessed with Minecraft and Roblox so when I showed him he could make his own content he was hooked. We have been doing some hands-on builds with Raspberry Pi projects as well. We are lucky that our school has a good STEM program to further develop and encourage these skills. The hardest part is always making it run and relatable.
If you are tech savvy yourself, I would use a very controlled environment with only creative-ish app allowed (drawing, programming etc.). Games should be vetted by you, and bring something to the development of the child (heavy story telling, puzzle mechanics etc.).
Regardless of all that, limit screen time, allow the child to be bored (which is important for psychological development).
Lead by examples by not looking at your phone every 5 second, and use the computer for active activities.
Once they are old enough to understand why something can be good or bad for them (idk, 10 years old?) regardless of whether or not it is enjoyable, you can give them a bit more control, while still being involved. Do they like a specific youtuber? Ask them why, watch some videos with them. Keep controlling the time spent though.
This is what I would like to do in the future. I am currently childless so this comment is purely based on what I want to do and not on active experience. Can be food for thoughts though.
Lead by examples by not looking at your phone every 5 second, and use the computer for active activities.
Once they are old enough to understand why something can be good or bad for them (idk, 10 years old?) regardless of whether or not it is enjoyable, you can give them a bit more control, while still being involved. Do they like a specific youtuber? Ask them why, watch some videos with them. Keep controlling the time spent though.
This is what I would like to do in the future. I am currently childless so this comment is purely based on what I want to do and not on active experience. Can be food for thoughts though.
And you do also have on the other hand a trove of information and knowledge bank which they can rely on.
How and what and when at what age would you do it?