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I read the entire thing and while interesting I don't think I understand. The entire known cosmos exists within an artificial construct with human amenities? What is the point of the story exactly?
Historically, a liminal space was just a place a where two areas meet, like a doorway, a gate, a crossroads, or even death. Somewhere a journey ends and another begins. I think Hecate, who was the goddess of crossroads and magic/illusion (and hellhounds) among 1000 other things, was in charge of liminal things. (Makes you wonder where Robert Johnson picked up a good chunk of the Hecate myth). I think Janus also played a role in controlling exits and entryways.
So, how does a rather normal Roman concept get turned into whatever liminality is now? The answer is that the idea was picked up first by Early Modern philosophers (I think Kant was first but he had a very unmystical definition of the liminal -- but I won't bore you with... Kant). Keep in mind that during this period the limit in mathematics was being developed.
It gradually regains something of its spiritual, Roman-like meaning as the 19th century progresses and also finds an appropriate home in anthropology to describe places and ideas like the Roman ones and in (Jungian I'm guessing) psychoanalysis where it's used metaphorically as turning point or a threshold between sanity and madness.
After that, the French philosophers (maybe from existentialism on -- existential literature, Satre and Beckett come to mind, have some sublime depictions of liminality) of the later 1900s, ran further with the psycho-metaphorical version. Besides its already-established connection with madness, it came to be, I guess, a sort of goal. I think the aim was to push the writer, reader, and message into a liminal space where cultural and other boundaries could be crossed with the hope of seeing things from an alternative perspective.
From there it trickled down to colleges and culture at large (again). Sorry for the ramble. I hope I got my facts correct.
So, how does a rather normal Roman concept get turned into whatever liminality is now? The answer is that the idea was picked up first by Early Modern philosophers (I think Kant was first but he had a very unmystical definition of the liminal -- but I won't bore you with... Kant). Keep in mind that during this period the limit in mathematics was being developed.
It gradually regains something of its spiritual, Roman-like meaning as the 19th century progresses and also finds an appropriate home in anthropology to describe places and ideas like the Roman ones and in (Jungian I'm guessing) psychoanalysis where it's used metaphorically as turning point or a threshold between sanity and madness.
After that, the French philosophers (maybe from existentialism on -- existential literature, Satre and Beckett come to mind, have some sublime depictions of liminality) of the later 1900s, ran further with the psycho-metaphorical version. Besides its already-established connection with madness, it came to be, I guess, a sort of goal. I think the aim was to push the writer, reader, and message into a liminal space where cultural and other boundaries could be crossed with the hope of seeing things from an alternative perspective.
From there it trickled down to colleges and culture at large (again). Sorry for the ramble. I hope I got my facts correct.
There's a very weird phenomenon I've noticed related to 'liminal spaces' where I find that media which refuses to describe itself as 'liminal' is significantly higher quality than media which embraces the term.
The cycle usually goes like this:
1. I see a genuinely haunting image or piece of art on the Internet and think "Wow, this reminds me of that 'liminal space' stuff I read about."
2. Now that it's rekindled my interest, I search for 'liminal space' and find a mixture of half-ass creepypasta and very bland images of abandoned buildings.
3. After a short time of searching, I get bored and forget about liminal spaces for a few months until it comes back to me.
I don't know if this is just an example of the Pareto principle (80% of 'liminal' art is crap) or if the label 'liminal' is just so frequently misapplied that it's become useless.
The cycle usually goes like this:
1. I see a genuinely haunting image or piece of art on the Internet and think "Wow, this reminds me of that 'liminal space' stuff I read about."
2. Now that it's rekindled my interest, I search for 'liminal space' and find a mixture of half-ass creepypasta and very bland images of abandoned buildings.
3. After a short time of searching, I get bored and forget about liminal spaces for a few months until it comes back to me.
I don't know if this is just an example of the Pareto principle (80% of 'liminal' art is crap) or if the label 'liminal' is just so frequently misapplied that it's become useless.
A similar aesthetics wiki is this one: https://cari.institute/
I've been hoping for a long time that something like this existed. Now I've finally found it.
"Cyberspace Liminality In William Gibson's Neuromancer: A Decentralization From The Cybernetic To The Posthuman."
https://www.asjp.cerist.dz/en/article/106579
https://www.asjp.cerist.dz/en/article/106579
Interesting. I use that term to mean a built space that pedestrians aren't meant to be, but you find yourself in somehow. No door, no sign, no suitable walking surface.
Two weeks ago, I had never heard the word "liminal". Now, it seems to be the order of the day.
It’s a popular word in undergraduate English departments. My friend in college told me his professor (jokingly) threatened to hand an “F” out to any paper that talked about the liminality of the text because of the sheer number of them he got every semester.
I encountered this word for the first time a couple of months ago and have been seeing it everywhere since.
For anyone in New York, there’s a pretty good art exhibit in Brooklyn about liminality called the Museum of Future Experience. (The museum might do other exhibits, but it’s been liminality for as long as I’ve known it).
For anyone in New York, there’s a pretty good art exhibit in Brooklyn about liminality called the Museum of Future Experience. (The museum might do other exhibits, but it’s been liminality for as long as I’ve known it).
This is the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
TIL there is an aesthetics wiki
The premise of the wiki is interesting, though I do think it’s lacking in variety from what I’ve seen so far. It seems to cater towards very niche part of internet culture aesthetics. There’s still definitely a couple of good reads though!
Yes, most are just Tumblr and Instagram trends.
"WARNING: Might cause derealization and depression."
Subjectless photographs.
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~kite/doc/roauss.htm