Paper Airplane Designs (2013)(foldnfly.com)
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Was it this [1] program?
[1] https://archive.org/details/thegpa
[1] https://archive.org/details/thegpa
What a great app that was. The step-by-step animated folding instructions were actually 3D. It had buttons to rotate the view around to any angle. In hindsight they must have written their own simple 3D engine or something. Obviously they didn't need to render too many polygons at once, and no textures or shading.
The thing I'm most impressed and surprised about is that archive.org runs a Windows 3.1 emulator in the page, so you can actually use the program. I fully expected it to just be information about the program, perhaps with some screenshots. Modern browser tech is amazing.
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"Great International Paper Airplane Book" [0] was my drug.
[0] https://archive.org/details/greatinternation00mandrich
[0] https://archive.org/details/greatinternation00mandrich
Oh, yes, that book was great. The helicopter one is pretty unique, and there was another one that is VERY simple to make, and you end up making a flying-ring, and that plane actually performed beautifully. It flew straight and fast; wasn't much for long slow glides, but it never failed to impress people - especially with it's simplicity of construction.
It featured some "match rockets" too that probably would be a hard-sell to an editor/publisher these days....
Can't believe I've never heard of those, had to look them up. Those would have been very fun as a kid. I might make some now, thank you
I wish my son was just a little older so I had an excuse to find a copy of that book. It looks amazing. I'll save the link for a few years from now!
The one in the YouTube video looks very similar to (or exactly like) one of the designs from one of the Klutz books around the turn of the millennium. I might’ve found it in the Explorabook? I’m pretty sure they called it the best paper airplane you’ll ever make, it even had the same wing flaps.
It also looks almost exactly like one in the cover of the paper airplane book:
Klutz Book of Paper Airplanes Craft Kit https://a.co/94zUS0G
Turns out Klutz might’ve printed quite a few paper airplane instruction manuals.
It also looks almost exactly like one in the cover of the paper airplane book:
Klutz Book of Paper Airplanes Craft Kit https://a.co/94zUS0G
Turns out Klutz might’ve printed quite a few paper airplane instruction manuals.
Explorabook is the best!! That big fresnel lens was the most amazing way to quickly start a fire! I mean not that I tried or anything :D Klutz made so many awesome books back then. I still have my Explorabook, Klutz Book of Knots, and "Juggling for the Complete Klutz" (and the original bean bags)... all super awesome stuff for a kid to enjoy and learn from!
> Anyway, then after seeing my interest my father brought me an early Windows program that contained animated instructions on some paper plane designs.
Microsoft Publisher 97 had (and still has in the 365 version) templates for different papercraft, including a couple of paper airplane designs. I honed my standard paper airplane design on this, and likely wasted gallons of ink in the process. Living in an apartment with a balcony also upped the incentive to make paper airplanes.
Microsoft Publisher 97 had (and still has in the 365 version) templates for different papercraft, including a couple of paper airplane designs. I honed my standard paper airplane design on this, and likely wasted gallons of ink in the process. Living in an apartment with a balcony also upped the incentive to make paper airplanes.
I've found "Paperang paper airplane" to be the best. It is pretty hard to fold properly because the margin of error is thin, but it is really a fun one
"The Basic" should not even be on the list. Doesn't fly.
Link?
This was the YouTube video where I think the person makes the same design as the one I remember: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sozrof3HY
That is absolutely amazing and for anyone glossing over this link unsure if you will bother checking it out I highly recommend checking it out. 2 minute video. So cool the ending. I know what I am doing tomorrow.
They didn't show the landing. What happens if it lands on the cook top? I saw no fire extinguishers nearby. ;P
Interesting. I had learned a similar design back in the late 1970's early 1980's in school from classmates. I have learned some designs from books, but I guess we had a decent oral tradition, passing down good designs from grade to grade back then.
It was probably the combination of available letter-sized sheets of paper (old homework) and some free time (recess and/ study hall).
It was probably the combination of available letter-sized sheets of paper (old homework) and some free time (recess and/ study hall).
That brings back old memories! I used to fold my paper airplane like this for the most part : ). I do not remember who showed it to me.
this is the first and only “cool” paper airplane I learned to build. the version I learned had a tail, which was built from a strip of paper torn off the end of the page.
In fourth grade we had a paper airplane contest, but they had a restriction on the design: a circle about the size of a quarter was on the page, and no fold or crease could go through the circle.
The circle was located a few inches above the exact center of the paper.
Anyway I made a "dart", and just offset the angle a little to avoid the circle. It was good, and most of the competition was incredibly bad. And a few maybe had a bad launch. One throw only.
One clever design was submitted by a duo composed of my two worst nine year old enemies: Derek and Derek's sidekick. It was basically a UFO (saucer) made by carefully crumpling the edge until it was a nice size to throw. They threw it sidearm with one finger hooked around the rim.
It really sailed, maybe went twice as far as the second best plane: my plane.
But their plane was disqualified on the grounds that it wasn't a plane. So, I was deemed winner.
For the announcements the next morning, my name was announced as the wrong-gendered version (something like Jesse announced as Jessica) and it definitely didn't feel like a win anymore.
I still like paper airplanes, though.
The circle was located a few inches above the exact center of the paper.
Anyway I made a "dart", and just offset the angle a little to avoid the circle. It was good, and most of the competition was incredibly bad. And a few maybe had a bad launch. One throw only.
One clever design was submitted by a duo composed of my two worst nine year old enemies: Derek and Derek's sidekick. It was basically a UFO (saucer) made by carefully crumpling the edge until it was a nice size to throw. They threw it sidearm with one finger hooked around the rim.
It really sailed, maybe went twice as far as the second best plane: my plane.
But their plane was disqualified on the grounds that it wasn't a plane. So, I was deemed winner.
For the announcements the next morning, my name was announced as the wrong-gendered version (something like Jesse announced as Jessica) and it definitely didn't feel like a win anymore.
I still like paper airplanes, though.
I was at a math camp where one of the activities was that each team had to design a paper plane and get it to a castle on top of a hill by throwing it the fewest times possible (like in golf). Several teams converged on a design of a crumbled ball of paper as that was what offered the best combination of accuracy and distance.
Since there was no rule against it, we've allowed it. Some of the teams who played with conventional airplanes got furious. (These were all adult people!) Although innitially looking fairly innocent, I believe it ended up as the second most controversial activity we've held.
Since there was no rule against it, we've allowed it. Some of the teams who played with conventional airplanes got furious. (These were all adult people!) Although innitially looking fairly innocent, I believe it ended up as the second most controversial activity we've held.
I'll bite. What's the most controversial activity you have held at maths camp?
Haha. It wasn't my game and it was called "The Stick".
Played outdoor, between two teams who face each other on the opposite sides of a small playing field. In the middle there is a stick stuck into the ground.
The players are assigned various numbers. In each round a moderator announces a predicate such as "even numbers" or "factors of three primes" or "sum of digits is a power of two" etc.
The players who satisfy the predicate are allowed onto the field and their goal is to get the stick and bring it to their side. If a player mistakenly steps into the field they are out of the game. Grabbing and pulling other players while battling for the stick is fine.
The last time this was played it rained a bit and the terrain was muddy and slippery and also the game was probably needlessly violent. Too many people didn't enjoy it and we've decided to retire it.
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While I'm at it, the third most controversial game was a game where teams had to complete various tasks in and around the village after the sunset, find some objects, etc. We always have at least one such game and it is usually one of a kind, played just that one time.
This time there was a special twist. Unknown to the rest of the players, each team had a traitor whose goal was to hinder the progress of their team as much as possible. The traitor whose team finished in the last place was the actual winner of the game.
The activity was not scored, but the players were led to believe it is going to be scored.
When we played it some teams had conflicts and it sowed a lot of distrust and paranoia that spilled into the next day's games as well. Also the players who gave the game a lot of effort were angry that it is not scored in the end. It was the opposite of a team building activity so we never explored it further.
Although I have to say, I'm still intrigued by the concept and would like to try it in some other form one day again.
Played outdoor, between two teams who face each other on the opposite sides of a small playing field. In the middle there is a stick stuck into the ground.
The players are assigned various numbers. In each round a moderator announces a predicate such as "even numbers" or "factors of three primes" or "sum of digits is a power of two" etc.
The players who satisfy the predicate are allowed onto the field and their goal is to get the stick and bring it to their side. If a player mistakenly steps into the field they are out of the game. Grabbing and pulling other players while battling for the stick is fine.
The last time this was played it rained a bit and the terrain was muddy and slippery and also the game was probably needlessly violent. Too many people didn't enjoy it and we've decided to retire it.
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While I'm at it, the third most controversial game was a game where teams had to complete various tasks in and around the village after the sunset, find some objects, etc. We always have at least one such game and it is usually one of a kind, played just that one time.
This time there was a special twist. Unknown to the rest of the players, each team had a traitor whose goal was to hinder the progress of their team as much as possible. The traitor whose team finished in the last place was the actual winner of the game.
The activity was not scored, but the players were led to believe it is going to be scored.
When we played it some teams had conflicts and it sowed a lot of distrust and paranoia that spilled into the next day's games as well. Also the players who gave the game a lot of effort were angry that it is not scored in the end. It was the opposite of a team building activity so we never explored it further.
Although I have to say, I'm still intrigued by the concept and would like to try it in some other form one day again.
That traitor game looks, feels and smells like a cult brainwashing tactic.
Are BSG or Saboteur cult brainwashing tactics?
- https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37111/battlestar-galacti...
- https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9220/saboteur
There are also some D&D campaigns that work in the same way (and unlike in the board games the heroes don't know that there might be traitors among them).
- https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37111/battlestar-galacti...
- https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9220/saboteur
There are also some D&D campaigns that work in the same way (and unlike in the board games the heroes don't know that there might be traitors among them).
There’s a major difference between expected betrayal being part of the rules of a game, and gaslighting groups of children into competing under false pretenses. Does playing by the rules of BSG or Saboteur guarantee a loss for the team that by the rules should be winning?
The analogy would be appropriate if BSG was a competitive space fleet management game and some players decide in advance to make it a meta-game to join and sabotage each fleet without telling anyone of their intentions, leaving everyone else playing the ”fake” game while they at the end reveal the ”real” game and that whoever lost the real game actually won and vice versa.
The analogy would be appropriate if BSG was a competitive space fleet management game and some players decide in advance to make it a meta-game to join and sabotage each fleet without telling anyone of their intentions, leaving everyone else playing the ”fake” game while they at the end reveal the ”real” game and that whoever lost the real game actually won and vice versa.
These are camps for adults and the activity was not scored. Playing by the rules didn't guarantee a loss — there were no winners or loosers among the non-traitors.
I think the major issue that sets the game apart from the mentioned board games is that players don't know there might be traitors. OTOH it's impossible to have the board game that way, since it would only work the first time it is played. However, the D&D campaigns are the same as our game in this regard.
Anyway, the game wasn't all bad, some teams told us that they had a great time and found it an interesting and uncommon experience. But since too many people struggled with it we've decided to not run it again.
I think the major issue that sets the game apart from the mentioned board games is that players don't know there might be traitors. OTOH it's impossible to have the board game that way, since it would only work the first time it is played. However, the D&D campaigns are the same as our game in this regard.
Anyway, the game wasn't all bad, some teams told us that they had a great time and found it an interesting and uncommon experience. But since too many people struggled with it we've decided to not run it again.
I believe it was the great origami grandmaster Akira Yoshizawa who said, "Wet a piece of paper, crumple it into a ball, let it dry, and throw it hard. It will go quite far. A paper airplane must go farther, otherwise it might as well not be a paper airplane."
I'm aware of an even more efficient "hack" of the rules as different versions of this type of story are a mainstay of certain types of business courses where they want to try and teach a lesson of working together, delegation, cooperation, task specialization, etc.
The most efficient way to move a stack of paper to a goal isn't to take each piece and do something to it (crumple/fold) but to just leave it together and heave the entire ream of paper.
Note: this also frustrates the folks putting on the activity.
The most efficient way to move a stack of paper to a goal isn't to take each piece and do something to it (crumple/fold) but to just leave it together and heave the entire ream of paper.
Note: this also frustrates the folks putting on the activity.
Lean consultant: the more efficient way is to move the goal to the stack of paper. Especially if the goal is just a defined point in space you can redefine it with no effort at all.
Reading that story, I feel bad for Derek. They thought outside the box, and came up with an objectively superior solution -- only to have it rejected for no reason other than the fact that they thought outside the box.
On the surface, this sounds like a fabulous exercise: it requires some creative engineering thinking. But apparently, the way they addressed the winners left both of the top two teams feeling unsatisfied. Great exercise; poor execution.
On the surface, this sounds like a fabulous exercise: it requires some creative engineering thinking. But apparently, the way they addressed the winners left both of the top two teams feeling unsatisfied. Great exercise; poor execution.
I recognize injustice that his clever idea didn't win, but he was my worst enemy, so I disguised a smug grin while he pled his case to the judges.
Sounds like an Aerobie?
The inventor, when it was a new things years ago, submitted it to a Paper Airplane contest. The contests disqualified him because it was not an "Airplane".
He argued A) It s made of paper (Cardboard from a Pizza Box), B) it flew (for very long distances), therefore it is a Paper Airplane. QED
From experience I can tell you that A) They are attracted to trees, B) They swim like bricks (lost my first one in the first half hour to the local creek), C) They are very sensitive to thermal gradients. You can watch it ride up and over the finger tips of whomever you are playing with so it is just out of their reach. D) You need football size field, at a minimum, to paly with these.
https://aerobie.com/en_us#our-story
The inventor, when it was a new things years ago, submitted it to a Paper Airplane contest. The contests disqualified him because it was not an "Airplane".
He argued A) It s made of paper (Cardboard from a Pizza Box), B) it flew (for very long distances), therefore it is a Paper Airplane. QED
From experience I can tell you that A) They are attracted to trees, B) They swim like bricks (lost my first one in the first half hour to the local creek), C) They are very sensitive to thermal gradients. You can watch it ride up and over the finger tips of whomever you are playing with so it is just out of their reach. D) You need football size field, at a minimum, to paly with these.
https://aerobie.com/en_us#our-story
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>my name was announced as the wrong-gendered version
that really sounds like the kind of thing a person might get stuck with through out their days in school. did this stick around for awhile, or was it mercifully a short lived thing?
that really sounds like the kind of thing a person might get stuck with through out their days in school. did this stick around for awhile, or was it mercifully a short lived thing?
Honestly, not that bad. Classmates openly laughed during announcements. The next day they issued a correction, which was worse than no correction.
A few teases in the first week maybe, overall quite merciful.
A few teases in the first week maybe, overall quite merciful.
I guess you had better friends that I did. I had a name "given" me that stuck all through school, and would probably still get mentioned by some of the asshats from back then.
Sounds so scooby do, I love it.
My favorite paper plane is the one that is explained starting at 03:00 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BNg4fDJC8A
Out of all paper planes I tried, it has the best flying capabilities by far.
Form and function really come together in this one. It looks beautifully simple and elegant. And that's also how it flies. When you throw it from a rooftop, you are in for quite a show. It often flies loooong smooth circles. If you are lucky with the wind, it can stay in the air quite a while.
I do not use A4 paper though. I prefer A5, which is half the size of A4. I usually tear an A4 into two equal halves and use one of them.
I also do not do the crease at 04:18. Without it, the paper plane is even more beautiful, because you can put it on a flat surface and it stands on its own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BNg4fDJC8A
Out of all paper planes I tried, it has the best flying capabilities by far.
Form and function really come together in this one. It looks beautifully simple and elegant. And that's also how it flies. When you throw it from a rooftop, you are in for quite a show. It often flies loooong smooth circles. If you are lucky with the wind, it can stay in the air quite a while.
I do not use A4 paper though. I prefer A5, which is half the size of A4. I usually tear an A4 into two equal halves and use one of them.
I also do not do the crease at 04:18. Without it, the paper plane is even more beautiful, because you can put it on a flat surface and it stands on its own.
Wow, after the first two folds, this plane really folds itself.
The first fold is at 22.5 degrees, which makes all further folds have alignment with the base of the plane.
My entire life i was folding a plane that starts with two classic 45 degrees, then a 90 degree fold of the top 2/5th of the paper, again 45 degrees tip, hook in the little triangle. Fold over symmetry line and add wings however you want them. It's quite similar with hooking in the tip (the 04:18 crease), but not nearly as elegant to fold. It is capable of doing a looping, and is otherwise a decent flyer.
Curious about yours though, can't try it out here as I'm in the office.
The first fold is at 22.5 degrees, which makes all further folds have alignment with the base of the plane.
My entire life i was folding a plane that starts with two classic 45 degrees, then a 90 degree fold of the top 2/5th of the paper, again 45 degrees tip, hook in the little triangle. Fold over symmetry line and add wings however you want them. It's quite similar with hooking in the tip (the 04:18 crease), but not nearly as elegant to fold. It is capable of doing a looping, and is otherwise a decent flyer.
Curious about yours though, can't try it out here as I'm in the office.
Yes, it's cool how logical all the creases are. The first two align with the border of the paper. All other creases align with previous creases.
The Nakamura Lock, a schoolyard classic worldwide. It has a name, but no apparent origin; an Eiji Nakamura did publish a book Flying Origami in 1972, but no such plane can be found within.
The only source I can find is a Reddit comment stating that the design is named after Nakamura for having invented the type of fold that holds the plane together (https://redd.it/j2yjsd)
The only source I can find is a Reddit comment stating that the design is named after Nakamura for having invented the type of fold that holds the plane together (https://redd.it/j2yjsd)
He is not folding the Nakamura lock, as far as my googling goes. The nakamura lock starts with a perfect 90 degrees tip (two 45 degree folds), whereas OP starts with two 22.5 degree folds that don't form a a tip).
As a kid I had a great book with lots of science experiments in it called "Science Is" (Author: Susan V. Bosak)
It had an entire section on airplanes but there was one that absolutely destroyed my intuition about flight and to this day confuses adults whenever I get the chance to make it (something like a team building event where we need to make paper airplanes).
It's literally two hoops of paper and a stick. Here's a page I found with the design.
https://www.exploratorium.edu/science_explorer/hoopster.html
It had an entire section on airplanes but there was one that absolutely destroyed my intuition about flight and to this day confuses adults whenever I get the chance to make it (something like a team building event where we need to make paper airplanes).
It's literally two hoops of paper and a stick. Here's a page I found with the design.
https://www.exploratorium.edu/science_explorer/hoopster.html
Let me guess how this works: from the nose view, the paper strips being at one side cause the stick to angle toward it, since the center of mass is close to the stick than the center of the drag force due to the stick's relatively small cross section for its mass. This causes the craft to keep pitching up. In addition, the same difference in cross sections between the hoops and the the stick from the plan view give it roll stability. Meanwhile, the larger hoop being at the back causes more drag, giving it yaw stability.
The two rings + stick design was also in "The Great International Paper Airplane Book": http://www.codex99.com/design/images/airplane/18_lg.jpg
That's two annular wings
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_wing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_wing
The French C.450 Coleoptere had a cylinder wing which provided plenty of lift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unz6mfjS4ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unz6mfjS4ws
It's not clear from the webpage, but does it do something different from a paper airplane with just 1 hoop like this? https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/teach/activity/ring-wing-glider...
I would make variations of those ring gliders from an aluminum coke cans cut down to half-height, something heavy like dict tape on the leading edge to provide weight.
You throw them fast and underhanded imparting a bit of spin — they'll sail across a gymnasium.
You throw them fast and underhanded imparting a bit of spin — they'll sail across a gymnasium.
Nice.
However, I see that it doesn't have the plane which I usually made as a child.
As an aside, I was a wannabe pilot who never went to flight school. I love aircrafts, and I love long haul flights (I never got tired from the multiple 15+ hour India<->America flights I took).
In India to become a pilot you had to learn math and physics in high-school, and at my highschool, you could either take Math-Physics-Chemistry-Biology, or Math-Physics-Chemistry-ComputerScience.
Computer Science (CS) meant they taught you coding, Boolean algebra (incl. Karnaugh Maps), history of CS and the internet, and we eventually moved onto OOP.
I'm terrible at Biology, so I choose the latter option. I found I liked CS, and now here I am :)
Though I never went to flight school, even today I'm still passionate about it. I follow these youtubers — Mentour Pilot, Captain Joe, Kelsey (74gear), and Dutch Pilot Girl.
And I closely follow the aircraft models and the industry in general. I can tell what model an aircraft is just by looking at it.
I sometimes have those what if moments.
It's like the great American poet Robert Frost's The Road Not Taken, except I took the well travelled road.
However, I see that it doesn't have the plane which I usually made as a child.
As an aside, I was a wannabe pilot who never went to flight school. I love aircrafts, and I love long haul flights (I never got tired from the multiple 15+ hour India<->America flights I took).
In India to become a pilot you had to learn math and physics in high-school, and at my highschool, you could either take Math-Physics-Chemistry-Biology, or Math-Physics-Chemistry-ComputerScience.
Computer Science (CS) meant they taught you coding, Boolean algebra (incl. Karnaugh Maps), history of CS and the internet, and we eventually moved onto OOP.
I'm terrible at Biology, so I choose the latter option. I found I liked CS, and now here I am :)
Though I never went to flight school, even today I'm still passionate about it. I follow these youtubers — Mentour Pilot, Captain Joe, Kelsey (74gear), and Dutch Pilot Girl.
And I closely follow the aircraft models and the industry in general. I can tell what model an aircraft is just by looking at it.
I sometimes have those what if moments.
It's like the great American poet Robert Frost's The Road Not Taken, except I took the well travelled road.
What I came to say. Reading the first line I figured this is an Indian ;)
Yep, the relatively short plane with large wings.
Doesn't go fast, but it hovers in the air for quite a bit.
Does this until it hits the ground: Go down, gather lift and go up, reach stall speed, stall, repeat.
Nice to watch if you have a tiny one that you launch from a great height.
Doesn't go fast, but it hovers in the air for quite a bit.
Does this until it hits the ground: Go down, gather lift and go up, reach stall speed, stall, repeat.
Nice to watch if you have a tiny one that you launch from a great height.
Get a PPL if you really want to fly. It is much more accessible and you can make your dream come true.
Eventually I'd like to obtain a licence, at least the one for smaller planes.
But even if I get one, general aviation isn't really a thing here in India so it's kind of a dead-end.
I think USA is a better place for these kinds of activities, where the plane scene is much more active.
But even if I get one, general aviation isn't really a thing here in India so it's kind of a dead-end.
I think USA is a better place for these kinds of activities, where the plane scene is much more active.
What about gliders? Glider hours are much cheaper. Not sure how their availability looks like in India - but if there are, I imagine there are AMAZING mountain ridges your could use for soaring :)
One of the finest paper airplanes is the origami design of Prof. James M. Sakoda of Brown University "winner of the origami award in the First Inernational Paper Airplane Contest" in 1967 and published in "The Great International Paper Airplane Book" (Jerry Mander, George Dippel, Howard Gossage)
https://i.imgur.com/Kv94Glf.png
https://i.imgur.com/Kv94Glf.png
Yes, that is perhaps my favorite. It always reminded me of the Orion space clipper in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey".
Given the weather at the moment, I remember, as a kid, being astounded when I threw a paper airplane on a hot summers-day that didn't immediately come back down to earth like normal, but soared and soared and soared for minutes before I lost it. It blew my little kid mind.
What a great feeling that must have been.
It's funny, it's kind of similar to walkie talkie transmissions in the summer. They can get tunneled through the troposphere and suddenly you are talking to people you never expected to contact.
A couple summers ago I was out in my yard, called out randomly on my little 5W handheld, and the signal went just over 8 miles through flat, forested city neighborhoods into the back end of a guy's directional antenna on his house. We had a good laugh at that. I've run tests in the neighborhood and I'm usually lucky to get out a single mile.
During the same season I also like that I can pick up Indian music from an FM radio station 150+ miles south of me (KSJO), using a small pocket radio. Searching around for those signals is also kind of like fishing.
Anyway. I think it's pretty neat how different seasonal conditions change the dynamics of a hobby interest or a science.
It's funny, it's kind of similar to walkie talkie transmissions in the summer. They can get tunneled through the troposphere and suddenly you are talking to people you never expected to contact.
A couple summers ago I was out in my yard, called out randomly on my little 5W handheld, and the signal went just over 8 miles through flat, forested city neighborhoods into the back end of a guy's directional antenna on his house. We had a good laugh at that. I've run tests in the neighborhood and I'm usually lucky to get out a single mile.
During the same season I also like that I can pick up Indian music from an FM radio station 150+ miles south of me (KSJO), using a small pocket radio. Searching around for those signals is also kind of like fishing.
Anyway. I think it's pretty neat how different seasonal conditions change the dynamics of a hobby interest or a science.
Amazing. I'm grateful for the way this universe creates magical experiences for us. Sometimes I wonder if it really is just an accident.
My friends and I could never get any of the pointy darts to work with a hard throw--they never had the right balance not to loop or nosedive at high speed. What we settled on as the most satisfying to hurl is this design (found online widely under this name; requires letter proportion paper): https://www.instructables.com/The-Hammer-Paper-Airplane/
Carefully made, it flies straight when yeeted without trimming, and the blunt nose handles landings without damage. I surmise that the fold along the entire edge of the wing contributes to high-speed performance by preventing the trailing edge from fluttering. Could this also be why the world record designs tend to have winglets?
A design that's amusing to experiment with is the most minimalistic glider, made with a heavy roll-fold of the leading edge of the paper and three parallel folds forming the wings and fuselage.[1] The parameters being length & number of folds and camber of the wings, it can be tuned to manage a hard throw straight before stalling and leveling out to a long flight in phugoid motion.
Flying rings are interesting, too. The rotationally symmetrical type formed from only a roll fold and tape (purity notwithstanding) are similarly minimalistic
[1] like this without the winglets, thus a case against my theory of wing support: https://www.origamiway.com/plane-spy-plane.shtml
Carefully made, it flies straight when yeeted without trimming, and the blunt nose handles landings without damage. I surmise that the fold along the entire edge of the wing contributes to high-speed performance by preventing the trailing edge from fluttering. Could this also be why the world record designs tend to have winglets?
A design that's amusing to experiment with is the most minimalistic glider, made with a heavy roll-fold of the leading edge of the paper and three parallel folds forming the wings and fuselage.[1] The parameters being length & number of folds and camber of the wings, it can be tuned to manage a hard throw straight before stalling and leveling out to a long flight in phugoid motion.
Flying rings are interesting, too. The rotationally symmetrical type formed from only a roll fold and tape (purity notwithstanding) are similarly minimalistic
[1] like this without the winglets, thus a case against my theory of wing support: https://www.origamiway.com/plane-spy-plane.shtml
Related:
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29466325 - Dec 2021 (8 comments)
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23545860 - June 2020 (8 comments)
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18249755 - Oct 2018 (206 comments)
Real Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12632253 - Oct 2016 (1 comment)
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29466325 - Dec 2021 (8 comments)
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23545860 - June 2020 (8 comments)
Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18249755 - Oct 2018 (206 comments)
Real Paper Airplane Designs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12632253 - Oct 2016 (1 comment)
Yes this website keeps popping up in HN.
Which makes me to wonder what is the logic for checking a duplicate? I know that dups are checked while submitting a link, but how far in time does it go?
If the check is time bound is it due to performance or is it due to belief that after sufficient time gap content inside an identical link could be different?
Which makes me to wonder what is the logic for checking a duplicate? I know that dups are checked while submitting a link, but how far in time does it go?
If the check is time bound is it due to performance or is it due to belief that after sufficient time gap content inside an identical link could be different?
Thanks.
This thread gives some idea about the complexity, but still I'm none the wiser.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206417
This thread gives some idea about the complexity, but still I'm none the wiser.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23206417
The two important things are that duplicates are ok after about a year and most other duplicates get caught by users and moderators if they get past simpler checks. So fundamentally the technical problem of dupe detection is not all that important to the site. There's some annoyance for submitters who feel they miss out on their rightful karma when their submission of something doesn't get traction but I guess they are a small magnanimous fraction of all users.
The main thing to know is that reposts are fine after a year or so. pvg has already pointed this out but it's worth emphasizing.
When I post "related" links like in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32135274, the purpose is simply to point readers to other discussions they may find interesting. It's not meant to imply "these are dupes that shouldn't have been reposted". I hope that's clear!
When I post "related" links like in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32135274, the purpose is simply to point readers to other discussions they may find interesting. It's not meant to imply "these are dupes that shouldn't have been reposted". I hope that's clear!
My father was a high school math teacher and he would borrow books on paper plane folding at the library, then photocopy the books with the photocopier at his school
We spent a lot of weekends folding planes together - I think we both liked the repetitive nature of it. It's definitely one of the things that got me hooked on engineering as a child (alongside Legos)
He died of an anyorism when I was 11 and I haven't folded a paper plane ever since - maybe it's time I give it a go
We spent a lot of weekends folding planes together - I think we both liked the repetitive nature of it. It's definitely one of the things that got me hooked on engineering as a child (alongside Legos)
He died of an anyorism when I was 11 and I haven't folded a paper plane ever since - maybe it's time I give it a go
I used to love making the ring wing glider: https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/teach/activity/ring-wing-glider...
In addition to being able to glide very far, you could launch it with a meter stick.
In addition to being able to glide very far, you could launch it with a meter stick.
I used to make the ones out of this book.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671555510
They are a bit finicky to make, but fly very nicely. One day a friend and I were messing around and added a dumb amount of weight to the front of one. Think it was a clip his mom used to dry cloths outside. Nearly doubled the weight and put the center of balance way near the front of the plane. We expected a nosedive. Gave it a toss and it 3x'd the flight length easily. It was already fairly decent and you could easily get across a room with little changes. Now it was easily getting across his yard.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671555510
They are a bit finicky to make, but fly very nicely. One day a friend and I were messing around and added a dumb amount of weight to the front of one. Think it was a clip his mom used to dry cloths outside. Nearly doubled the weight and put the center of balance way near the front of the plane. We expected a nosedive. Gave it a toss and it 3x'd the flight length easily. It was already fairly decent and you could easily get across a room with little changes. Now it was easily getting across his yard.
If you uncheck all boxes, except "easy", then you get this plane recommendation [0] which is note listed on the landing page by default. Easy, but with 100+ folds.
[0] https://www.foldnfly.com/404.html#The-Goof-Up
[0] https://www.foldnfly.com/404.html#The-Goof-Up
While they'r not in the foldable category, the paper plane designs of Yasuaki Ninomiya are pretty incredible, though apparently no longer produced commercially.
https://bluegrassroots.ninja/whitewings
https://bluegrassroots.ninja/whitewings
I still have a some un-assembled Whitewings on my bookshelf! The book that came with it was pack full of design details.
Very cool.
Just for info: these use the "Letter paper", not A4, as I remember. But most designs should work anyway.
"The most used of this series is the size A4, which is 210 mm × 297 mm (8.27 in × 11.7 in) and thus almost exactly 1⁄16 square metre (0.0625 m2; 96.8752 sq in) in area. For comparison, the letter paper size commonly used in North America (8+1⁄2 in × 11 in, 216 mm × 279 mm) is about 6 mm (0.24 in) wider and 18 mm (0.71 in) shorter than A4. Then, the size of A5 paper is half of A4, as 148 mm × 210 mm (5.8 in × 8.3 in)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216
Just for info: these use the "Letter paper", not A4, as I remember. But most designs should work anyway.
"The most used of this series is the size A4, which is 210 mm × 297 mm (8.27 in × 11.7 in) and thus almost exactly 1⁄16 square metre (0.0625 m2; 96.8752 sq in) in area. For comparison, the letter paper size commonly used in North America (8+1⁄2 in × 11 in, 216 mm × 279 mm) is about 6 mm (0.24 in) wider and 18 mm (0.71 in) shorter than A4. Then, the size of A5 paper is half of A4, as 148 mm × 210 mm (5.8 in × 8.3 in)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216
Is there a good biodegradable paper for making planes? There are lots of great buildings/bridges/mountains/cliffs that would be really fun to launch them off of.
It might be fun to implement these in something like this origami simulator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31281700 https://origamisimulator.org ; that seems to have a bit of trouble with order-of-operation steps, but I think would still be interesting.
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I really like the 'Fun Flyer', never knew it had a name. Although I like to do a variation where I fold the wing tips to create a kind of 'winglet'. And sometimes cut 'flaps' on the back of the wing to adjust the flight path. So the wings may end up looking like the 'king bee'
In my childhood, our reference for paper planes was Capt. Barnaby's classic:
http://www.jumpjet.info/Offbeat-Internet/More/Misc/How_To_Ma...
http://www.jumpjet.info/Offbeat-Internet/More/Misc/How_To_Ma...
For me, it was "The Great International Paper Airplane Book" (which I was happy to discover is now available for borrowing on the Internet Archive):
https://archive.org/details/greatinternation00jerr
I went through 2 physical copies cutting out all the patterns to make the various planes.
https://archive.org/details/greatinternation00jerr
I went through 2 physical copies cutting out all the patterns to make the various planes.
I've noticed that in N. America "The Dart" is the standard and in S.E. Asia kids fold something that's like a hybrid between "The Dart" and "The Buzz" that flies really well. I've never had much luck with the dart, it's usually really unstable.
Author of the website here. Always fun to see my site pop up in my own news feed.
Happy to answer any questions.
Happy to answer any questions.
Has anyone done any research on which type of paper travels best? How does weight distribution play a factor? Does the type of paper impact the design of the plane you build?
Nice. Can't wait to try out some of thee with my 11-year old.
At one point of time we used to be obsessed with paper planes ... and that's when we only knew 2-3 designs.
I remember making some of the more complicated ones as a kid but completely forgot about them as an adult. This brings back so many fond memories.
Great pedagogical resource, I am in parental leave and might spend our afternoons with the kids with this foa a couple of days :) thx!
Homeoffice > Reading HN > Building Paperplanes with Kids ...
With hindsight, I realise that most of the improvements we measured were really just statistical noise. We never had a control plane, so if one by accident flew better one test, then we would tweak something and then we would naturally see regression to the mean, but we would record that as a tweak that made things worse.
To little me it was a lesson in deliberate design. To grown-up me I guess it's a lesson in how easy it is to delude yourself without proper experiment design and statistics.
Anyway, then after seeing my interest my father brought me an early Windows program that contained animated instructions on some paper plane designs. One of them was vastly superior to anything I had ever seen. But with the years, I forgot how to fold it. I had been looking for it for over 20 years when a few months ago, I wanted to show my son (of two years) a good paper plane and guess what? I think I've found the design! But it took a blurry YouTube video and some trial and error. I ought to write it down some day.