HackerTrans
TopNewTrendsCommentsPastAskShowJobs

Elon Musk Bans CrimethInc. From Twitter at the Urging of Far-Right Troll(crimethinc.com)

24 points·by deanCommie·4 ปีที่แล้ว·33 comments
crimethinc.com
Elon Musk Bans CrimethInc. From Twitter at the Urging of Far-Right Troll

https://crimethinc.com/2022/11/25/elon-musk-bans-crimethinc-from-twitter-on-request-from-far-right-troll

43 comments

version_five·4 ปีที่แล้ว
The website appears to be mostly just an insane rant. That said, I don't think it should have been banned either, outside of doing something specifically illegal.

(Edit: also, I've never heard of Andy Ngo, the person the site is accusing of being a "far right troll", but it's pretty clearly a highly editorialized title, even if it accurately reflects the title of the original article)
sp332·4 ปีที่แล้ว
I think it's a pretty good description. Even Wikipedia doesn't have much else to say about him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo
version_five·4 ปีที่แล้ว
I looked at the wikipedia article before I made my comment. It appears neutral, even if they don't have anything nice to say about him, they don't participate in name-calling, which is what I'm suggesting for the title
leereeves·4 ปีที่แล้ว
Check the edit history on that page; there's a lot of controversy behind the scenes. Such Wikiwars can produce neutral language masking underlying bias. Fortunately there's no need to trust pseudonymous Wikipedia editors when the entire record is public.

Andy Ngo reports on left-wing violence (primarily "antifacists" in Portland), as you can see from his Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

He seems to have caused several bannings tonight by reporting various crimes, criminal histories, and calls to violence on Twitter. He discussed CrimethInc with Elon in this thread:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1596087310042296320
BulgarianIdiot·4 ปีที่แล้ว
It's quite bizarre to constantly hear Elon Musk talk about free speech and unbanning everyone, and then this ongoing list of left-leaning accounts get nuked. And not just left-leaning. The Oatmeal's Twitter account (https://theoatmeal.com/) was "permanently banned" couple of days ago for no given reason. Activism got it back, but imagine you're not popular. Your account is gone forever just like that. It's pure chaos.
DLA·4 ปีที่แล้ว
(3)
matbatt38·4 ปีที่แล้ว
Can you elaborate on "insane rant"?
codefreeordie·4 ปีที่แล้ว
(4)
licebmi__at__·4 ปีที่แล้ว
Maybe we can stop pretending "muh free speech" is something more than a right wing talking point, and what these "free speech absolutists" actually want is to prop up right wing talking points and ban left leaning ones. Just stop the lying about.
taolegal·4 ปีที่แล้ว
There's no lying, and that you're suggesting that they're lying reveals your own bias. And it also reveals that you don't support the idea of free speech, since you seem to believe it's only a politically motivated concept.
deanCommie·4 ปีที่แล้ว
If you support the idea of free speech, do you support banning CrimethInc?

If you do, do you also support banning anti-vaxx misinformation at the height of a societal health crisis?

If you do not, do you support calling Musk out on his hypocrisy here?

Just clarifying.
taolegal·4 ปีที่แล้ว
> do you support banning CrimethInc?

Not really, but free speech goes hand-in-hand with free association. Musk obviously has the prerogative to ban people.

> do you also support banning anti-vaxx misinformation at the height of a societal health crisis?

Nope, but again it's their perogative.

> do you support calling Musk out on his hypocrisy here?

I don't particularly care.

At the end of the day, free speech is the foundational freedom in the US. It's the 1st amendment for a reason. There's no use in arguing against it, it's an ultimate virtue whether people support it or not.

Clearly a private company do whatever it wants, BUT free speech is an ideal and Twitter should nevertheless try to uphold it, as the de facto public square on the internet.
paulpauper·4 ปีที่แล้ว
After reading the twitter thread and the link, i don't think it should have been banned unless it actually called for violence at a location or against an individual.
matbatt38·4 ปีที่แล้ว
Which Trump did and he still got unbanned
papito·4 ปีที่แล้ว
Elon's little power trip as his own lord of Twitter Land and the King of the People is really going speeding towards pathetic levels.

Who is he trying to impress? We know this is all an act, and the thin-skinned vulgarian will get all discombobulated at the first sign of being questioned.

But what's truly remarkable is his almost overnight alignment with disinformation peddlers, trolls, and insurrectionists. I mean, wow, way to flame out. Tip of a hat, sire.

Really, question your life choices if you care about what the convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza thinks.
draw_down·4 ปีที่แล้ว