The Rise of Archaeologists Anonymous(unherd.com)
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The Rise of Archaeologists Anonymous
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Other than this strawman mischaracterization of the article*, the rest of your comments seem almost entirely unconcerned with whether the author's allegations are true. Are you hoping that, if you can associate him with the wrong people, you can avoid addressing the factuality of the article? How much longer do you think such deflection will keep working?
*The claim is not "all historical immigration has wiped out the current inhabitants", but the weaker and obvious claim that "some historical immigration has to varying degrees wiped out the current inhabitants". To dispute that would be to argue that throughout all of its history, all of humanity has been perfectly pacifist.
*The claim is not "all historical immigration has wiped out the current inhabitants", but the weaker and obvious claim that "some historical immigration has to varying degrees wiped out the current inhabitants". To dispute that would be to argue that throughout all of its history, all of humanity has been perfectly pacifist.
I do not know the author's opinions well enough to know whether he is right-wing or not. I do know that he has a Substack: https://stoneageherbalist.substack.com/.
I do know, however, that "all historical immigration has wiped out the current inhabitants so we should be right-wing and oppose immigration today" is not something that this article is arguing for, at least not explicitly.
I myself am neither a left-winger nor a right-winger but I usually dislike it when academia is dominated by dogma rather than by the search for truth. To that extent, at least, I agree with the author.
I do know, however, that "all historical immigration has wiped out the current inhabitants so we should be right-wing and oppose immigration today" is not something that this article is arguing for, at least not explicitly.
I myself am neither a left-winger nor a right-winger but I usually dislike it when academia is dominated by dogma rather than by the search for truth. To that extent, at least, I agree with the author.
Yeah, that's some weirdly crypto-nazi stuff:
https://stoneageherbalist.substack.com/p/hating-the-saxon-th...
Lots of stuff about Germanic people's ethnic destiny to rule the world, then how people found that problematic after world war II then a weird genetics has proved the woke wrong finale without ever really stating a case clearly.
Particularly weird is the treatment of the Normans, who are treated as non-germanic interlopers, barely worth mentioning except as a foil to the noble anglo-saxons.
https://stoneageherbalist.substack.com/p/hating-the-saxon-th...
Lots of stuff about Germanic people's ethnic destiny to rule the world, then how people found that problematic after world war II then a weird genetics has proved the woke wrong finale without ever really stating a case clearly.
Particularly weird is the treatment of the Normans, who are treated as non-germanic interlopers, barely worth mentioning except as a foil to the noble anglo-saxons.
I read that article earlier and I did not see anything in there that supports the idea that Germanic people should rule the world. My own Slavic ethnicity makes me quite dislike the idea of Germanic people ruling the world so I am pretty sure that I am not biased towards Germanic people in this matter.
As for the Normans, I do not remember any mention of them in the article but maybe I should give it a re-read.
As for the Normans, I do not remember any mention of them in the article but maybe I should give it a re-read.
> Both an interest in the English language and in promoting Anglo-Saxon liberties against the Norman yoke found a welcome audience amongst Tudor parliamentarians and Oxford scholars, laying the foundations for the conflict between Crown and Commons. Certainly, by the 17th century there was a growing consensus that the Anglo-Saxons were a people of exceptional liberty, who created free institutions and the common law, and who were later subjugated by the Normans. The Great Struggle through the use of Magna Carta, common law juries, Parliament and the Saxon spirit triumphed over autocratic foreign rule.
> The eminent antiquarian William Camden (1551 - 1623) in particular emphasised the founding stock of the Saxon peoples, that powerful Germanic tree from which flowered the English branch. Leaning on Tacitus’ description of the Germans as a peculiar and pure people, untainted by marriage with others, Camden and his colleagues, such as Richard Rowlands, connected England’s Saxon heritage with the Germanic languages and the cluster of northern peoples - the Danes, Germans, Normans and Dutch. This was to have profound consequences for how the nascent British Empire came to view itself, with a magnificent national story of freedom-loving Germanic settlers, capable of self-discipline and self-rule, free from outside interference, England could confidently project its destiny out into the world. This is what others have dubbed ‘Anglo-Saxonism’, the belief in the unique and masterful qualities of the English race, which could be traced back to the primeval forests of Germania. Self-government, free institutions, conventions of liberty, common law and the English language defined Anglo-Saxonism prior to WW2.
> The eminent antiquarian William Camden (1551 - 1623) in particular emphasised the founding stock of the Saxon peoples, that powerful Germanic tree from which flowered the English branch. Leaning on Tacitus’ description of the Germans as a peculiar and pure people, untainted by marriage with others, Camden and his colleagues, such as Richard Rowlands, connected England’s Saxon heritage with the Germanic languages and the cluster of northern peoples - the Danes, Germans, Normans and Dutch. This was to have profound consequences for how the nascent British Empire came to view itself, with a magnificent national story of freedom-loving Germanic settlers, capable of self-discipline and self-rule, free from outside interference, England could confidently project its destiny out into the world. This is what others have dubbed ‘Anglo-Saxonism’, the belief in the unique and masterful qualities of the English race, which could be traced back to the primeval forests of Germania. Self-government, free institutions, conventions of liberty, common law and the English language defined Anglo-Saxonism prior to WW2.
I see references to other people's beliefs in Germanic/Anglo-Saxon/English/etcetera supremacy. I do not see clear evidence that the author supports such supremacy.
Yeah, if the article ended there, then you'd think, that's pretty standard history.
Instead it goes on and talks about how after WWII people reacted against that, and then makes vague noises about how all that "revisionism" has been proved wrong by recent genetic findings but you're not allowed to talk about it because the woke left control academia.
And then you see the other writings where Mongolian Nazis are being praised as being based, western liberals are attacked for being too concerned with Neo-Nazism and so on. Or publishing old research papers that argue that reducing heirarchy will destroy society and the elite need to maintain their superiority to save civilisation from democracy. I mean it's not particularly subtle, but sure he's not at Kayne "I love hitler" levels of blatancy, so if you want to pretend to ignore it then that's an easy option.
Instead it goes on and talks about how after WWII people reacted against that, and then makes vague noises about how all that "revisionism" has been proved wrong by recent genetic findings but you're not allowed to talk about it because the woke left control academia.
And then you see the other writings where Mongolian Nazis are being praised as being based, western liberals are attacked for being too concerned with Neo-Nazism and so on. Or publishing old research papers that argue that reducing heirarchy will destroy society and the elite need to maintain their superiority to save civilisation from democracy. I mean it's not particularly subtle, but sure he's not at Kayne "I love hitler" levels of blatancy, so if you want to pretend to ignore it then that's an easy option.
I mean, do the woke not control academia?
What do other writings have to do with evaluating the truth or falsity of this one?
To me it seems pretty obvious that modern Western academia is an environment where certain ideas get censored based on factors other than whether they are true or not.
This is not a new phenomenon. Before the woke controlled it, other power groups did. The woke are just the latest in a long line of ideological groups to control academia.
What do other writings have to do with evaluating the truth or falsity of this one?
To me it seems pretty obvious that modern Western academia is an environment where certain ideas get censored based on factors other than whether they are true or not.
This is not a new phenomenon. Before the woke controlled it, other power groups did. The woke are just the latest in a long line of ideological groups to control academia.
I couldn't quite figure out what they were saying, apart from the usual 'woke' is bad, reactionary 'science' is being oppressed.
Something like, all historical immigration has wiped out the current inhabitants so we should be right-wing and oppose immigration today? It's really not clear, presumably because if they just stated it plainly it would be obviously stupid.