Lemmy(lemmy.ml)
lemmy.ml
Lemmy
https://lemmy.ml/#
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nice reddit clone
What's interesting about this is not that it's a reddit clone, of which there is no shortage, but that it's a federated reddit clone. It speaks ActivityPub, the protocol used by Mastodon.
Why is that interesting?
The potential for a shift from online interaction mostly taking place in centralized, corporate-owned systems to federated ones without any centralized control is interesting. In the previous shift from small siloed websites to big centralized services, reddit largely replaced message boards, and a large-scale shift to federated systems will require a replacement for that.
That's not to imply a shift to federated systems is inevitable, though I do consider it desirable.
That's not to imply a shift to federated systems is inevitable, though I do consider it desirable.
Would be sad if something happened to it...
What is this?
I struggled to determine what exactly this was, at first.
The docs[1] are fairly clear, though:
"Lemmy is similar to sites like Reddit, Lobste.rs, Raddle, or Hacker News: you subscribe to forums you're interested in, post links and discussions, then vote, and comment on them. Behind the scenes, it is very different; anyone can easily run a server, and all these servers are federated (think email), and connected to the same universe, called the Fediverse.
...
Note: Federation is still in active development"
Also a useful post: "What is lemmy.ml"[2]
[1] https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/index.html
[2] https://lemmy.ml/post/70280
The docs[1] are fairly clear, though:
"Lemmy is similar to sites like Reddit, Lobste.rs, Raddle, or Hacker News: you subscribe to forums you're interested in, post links and discussions, then vote, and comment on them. Behind the scenes, it is very different; anyone can easily run a server, and all these servers are federated (think email), and connected to the same universe, called the Fediverse.
...
Note: Federation is still in active development"
Also a useful post: "What is lemmy.ml"[2]
[1] https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/index.html
[2] https://lemmy.ml/post/70280
https://join-lemmy.org/ would be an infinitely more useful starting point to discuss what lemmy is.
Worth noting that list misses off a few more popular instances https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Consider calling in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3J8FYKZ52w
Mastodon:Twitter::Lemmy:Reddit
The lemmy-network is (for now) full of tankies.
Just look at this: https://lemmy.ml/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/T...
This comment breaks more than one of HN"s guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Please don't take HN threads into ideological flamewar, don't call names, and avoid unsubstantive and/or flamebait posts.
Please don't take HN threads into ideological flamewar, don't call names, and avoid unsubstantive and/or flamebait posts.
And Pleroma is full of whatever the polar opposite of a tankie is (not going to use the "f" word but you know who I mean). It's not too surprising that the political allegiances of the core developers affect who is and isn't interested in joining the network.
I mean there’s a lot of that on Reddit too. Check out r/sino
Reposting my comment from 2 years ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28453627):
FediTips, a Mastodon account, recently shared some concerns about the Uyghur-related content in the largest Lemmy instance, which is run by Lemmy's developers:
https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
This created a firestorm on Lemmy, on which it was noted that Lemmy removes conservative and libertarian communities with the reason "No conservative communities":
> Removed Community conservatives reason: No conservative communities
> Removed Community Libertarian, in the pursuit of a free society reason: No conservative communities allowed
https://lemmy.ml/post/78808
https://lemmy.ml/modlog
Perhaps the underlying software is fine, but the largest Lemmy instance is not exactly the friendliest to anyone who wants to express themselves more freely than they are allowed to on mainstream social networks.
FediTips, a Mastodon account, recently shared some concerns about the Uyghur-related content in the largest Lemmy instance, which is run by Lemmy's developers:
https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
This created a firestorm on Lemmy, on which it was noted that Lemmy removes conservative and libertarian communities with the reason "No conservative communities":
> Removed Community conservatives reason: No conservative communities
> Removed Community Libertarian, in the pursuit of a free society reason: No conservative communities allowed
https://lemmy.ml/post/78808
https://lemmy.ml/modlog
Perhaps the underlying software is fine, but the largest Lemmy instance is not exactly the friendliest to anyone who wants to express themselves more freely than they are allowed to on mainstream social networks.
You're egging and reducing a website because it has leftists on it while the paragons of personal responsibility, efficient markets, and the banking system are having a meltdown and getting a bailout.
Remind me again what government handouts and interventions are?
I don't understand the point of a comment like "there are leftists that use this website".
Remind me again what government handouts and interventions are?
I don't understand the point of a comment like "there are leftists that use this website".
Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
GP said "tankies" not "leftists".
For people from two-party-system country it may sounds same. But as someone born in Czechoslovakia, some of those linked posts gave me a pause.
For people from two-party-system country it may sounds same. But as someone born in Czechoslovakia, some of those linked posts gave me a pause.
I'll take occasional bank failures over communism any day. The death toll of the SVB meltdown is zero.
Government handouts and interventions are social democracy, the system we all live in.
Government handouts and interventions are social democracy, the system we all live in.
flandish(1)
We don't have social democracy for regular people, only the rich and corporations
Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Previously:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33615058 (223 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33438493 (190 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33615058 (223 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33438493 (190 comments)
Thanks! Macroexpanded:
Lemmy: A Federated Reddit Alternative - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33615058 - Nov 2022 (215 comments)
LemmyBB, a federated bulletin board - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33438493 - Nov 2022 (186 comments)
Open Source federated link aggregator in rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31712332 - June 2022 (37 comments)
Lemmy Release v0.14.0: Federation with Mastodon and Pleroma - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29266003 - Nov 2021 (48 comments)
Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28453165 - Sept 2021 (213 comments)
Lemmy a federated, open-source and privacy alternative to Reddit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24393689 - Sept 2020 (9 comments)
Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23664067 - June 2020 (634 comments)
AMA about Lemmy, an open source, Federated alternative to Reddit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23389622 - June 2020 (4 comments)
Note:
Reposts are fine after a year or so, but when a story has had significant attention in the past year, we mark reposts as a dupe. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19686972 - April 2019 (99 comments)
Lemmy: A Federated Reddit Alternative - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33615058 - Nov 2022 (215 comments)
LemmyBB, a federated bulletin board - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33438493 - Nov 2022 (186 comments)
Open Source federated link aggregator in rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31712332 - June 2022 (37 comments)
Lemmy Release v0.14.0: Federation with Mastodon and Pleroma - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29266003 - Nov 2021 (48 comments)
Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28453165 - Sept 2021 (213 comments)
Lemmy a federated, open-source and privacy alternative to Reddit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24393689 - Sept 2020 (9 comments)
Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23664067 - June 2020 (634 comments)
AMA about Lemmy, an open source, Federated alternative to Reddit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23389622 - June 2020 (4 comments)
Note:
Reposts are fine after a year or so, but when a story has had significant attention in the past year, we mark reposts as a dupe. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19686972 - April 2019 (99 comments)
Ah man, I misremembered the name of the Lenny chatbot[0] and thought based on the URL that someone had created, like, a ChatGPT version him. Oh well.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_(bot)
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_(bot)
Now, we just need Lenny [1] to read the stories on Lemmy, and the circle will get completed.
[1] https://www.lennytroll.com/
[1] https://www.lennytroll.com/
Lemmy doesn't seem to offer anything to me. It probably offers something tangible to certain groups with opinions that are not well represented elsewhere.
The fact that it's federated under the hood is not a feature that would matter for most people, at least as far as I can see. If it meant that I can easily move my conversation elsewhere then yea I can see that, but I really can't, and it only further divides my comments across yet another silo.
Would be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong about my impression.
The fact that it's federated under the hood is not a feature that would matter for most people, at least as far as I can see. If it meant that I can easily move my conversation elsewhere then yea I can see that, but I really can't, and it only further divides my comments across yet another silo.
Would be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong about my impression.
Honestly the current content is not doing the platform any favors. Who wants another social media option that ranges from the inane to the toxic?
Reddit like forums, open source self-hosting, federation, these are all good points but people need to see how they make a difference in practice.
Mastodon somehow managed to be seen as a less toxic version of twitter, though it might be mostly peoples wish than anything intrinsic to the platform.
But all new entrants in the fediverse party will have to think how to convince people that social media are actually worth the hassle
Reddit like forums, open source self-hosting, federation, these are all good points but people need to see how they make a difference in practice.
Mastodon somehow managed to be seen as a less toxic version of twitter, though it might be mostly peoples wish than anything intrinsic to the platform.
But all new entrants in the fediverse party will have to think how to convince people that social media are actually worth the hassle
It's probably as much to do with the people as anything about the software. I have the impression Gargron set out to create a less toxic version of twitter and the early users he attracted were people who wanted a less toxic version of twitter. Many of the later users were people who liked interacting with those early users.
It appears Lemmy may have been created by people who wanted a version of reddit for militant communists, which might tend to discourage anyone who doesn't want to talk to militant communists from adopting it.
It appears Lemmy may have been created by people who wanted a version of reddit for militant communists, which might tend to discourage anyone who doesn't want to talk to militant communists from adopting it.