Ask HN: Is there a good way to force headphone use on tablets?
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Be the adult/parent here. Tell them they must, always, use headphones. And that if they do not comply they will lose the ipad for X hours (potentially increasing amounts of X for each subsequent infraction).
Then, actually apply the stated punishment when they test the boundaries.
Be the adult/parent here. Tell them they must, always, use headphones. And that if they do not comply they will lose the ipad for X hours (potentially increasing amounts of X for each subsequent infraction).
Then, actually apply the stated punishment when they test the boundaries.
This is the answer. There were some alternatives that weren’t bad, but ultimately this will be the best thing.
personally i would smash the ipads too. solves a lot of problems.
That sounds a bit excessive.
this requires both parents to enforce this. I could do it but my wife will fold every time.
Then be the carpenter or the ironsmith.
Assemble a frame in wood or in metal enclosing the iPad with a splitter like these ones:
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Female-Perfect-Dev...
Assemble a frame in wood or in metal enclosing the iPad with a splitter like these ones:
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Female-Perfect-Dev...
there you go! great idea! Is there a kickstarter project for this somewhere?
Technical solutions to people problems are rarely effective.
That’s a dependency you will need to solve first
Maybe superglue the iPad speakers shut?
The only other way I see is welding (for iPads with an aluminum back) or opening up the iPad to physically disconnect the speakers.
The only other way I see is welding (for iPads with an aluminum back) or opening up the iPad to physically disconnect the speakers.
> The only other way I see is welding (for iPads with an aluminum back) or opening up the iPad to physically disconnect the speakers.
That is a good idea, as long as Apple doesn't have anything that prevents it from booting if you disconnect them, wouldn't surprise me.
That is a good idea, as long as Apple doesn't have anything that prevents it from booting if you disconnect them, wouldn't surprise me.
> opening up the iPad to physically disconnect the speakers
I've certainly seen some laptops where that would be the easiest non-software option, where the leads can simply be unsnapped and wrapped in some non-conductive tape before closing it up again.
I've certainly seen some laptops where that would be the easiest non-software option, where the leads can simply be unsnapped and wrapped in some non-conductive tape before closing it up again.
Yes, it should be fairly straightforward, though probably not reversible. The difficult part is disassembling the iPad.
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This should so obviously be a software option. I think of this regularly. Unbelievably trivial & obvious. On a Linux computer I could write a script for this in 15 minutes. I should.
If parents in general had the ability to manage their devices, that'd just makes busses restaurants flights and everything else full of so much less din.
If parents in general had the ability to manage their devices, that'd just makes busses restaurants flights and everything else full of so much less din.
I wouldn’t say it’s a good way… how about plugging in a broken headphone jack- long enough to disable the speakers, short enough that it cannot be removed. Access to sound would require bluetooth headphones.
Or Bluetooth speakers.
The kids may also discover airplay and blast the audio over WiFi to the local audio system (there’s a MDM setting “Require passcode on first AirPlay pairing” to prevent that. See https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/deployment/dep0f7dd3d8...)
The kids may also discover airplay and blast the audio over WiFi to the local audio system (there’s a MDM setting “Require passcode on first AirPlay pairing” to prevent that. See https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/deployment/dep0f7dd3d8...)
I had not thought about AirPlay or Chromecast.
An isolated guest wifi configured on the router would fix that problem.
ooo not bad!
There's no good way to force anything on kids.
Because they are just as capable of free will as you and want to win at least as badly as you do.
If you can't figure out how to work through it together, that's on you as the adult. It's not on the child.
Good luck.
Because they are just as capable of free will as you and want to win at least as badly as you do.
If you can't figure out how to work through it together, that's on you as the adult. It's not on the child.
Good luck.
If they manage to defeat the technical solution then it’s a good lesson. Still a win.
And a lesson that the relationship with the parent is adversarial.
Always has been
I always looked at the world as if everyone's parent-child relationships were more or less like mine.
Now I think that was an error.
Corporal punishment is an example. Some parent-child relationships include it. Some don't. I don't assume one or the other.
My relationship with my child is nurturing, not competitive. I want my child to be better at everything than I am.
YMMV.
Now I think that was an error.
Corporal punishment is an example. Some parent-child relationships include it. Some don't. I don't assume one or the other.
My relationship with my child is nurturing, not competitive. I want my child to be better at everything than I am.
YMMV.
Iron sharpens iron
I believe you can download an automation app that will zero the volume upon x event such as headphones removal. Good luck.
Super glue it to your kids hand!
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You could fold the cable to the back of the unti, and epoxy the middle of the cable (or get a 3M cable-tie-grommit) and secur the cable to the case of the unit, as opposed to gluing it INTO the port. -- Basically make the splitter connected to the case, so its always available to use.
But also follow the parenting advice below.
https://i.imgur.com/i5yJQVq.png
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You could fold the cable to the back of the unti, and epoxy the middle of the cable (or get a 3M cable-tie-grommit) and secur the cable to the case of the unit, as opposed to gluing it INTO the port. -- Basically make the splitter connected to the case, so its always available to use.
But also follow the parenting advice below.
https://i.imgur.com/i5yJQVq.png
https://www.amazon.com/JSAUX-Headphone-Splitter-Nylon-Braided-Playstation/dp/B088686SKJ/
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Syncwire-Nylon-Braided-Stereo/dp/B07431YDWM/
"Headphone Splitter 3.5mm, Audio Splitter 2 Female to 1 Male, Dual Headphone Adapter"
But everytime I try the superglue doesn't hold up and the kids are able to unplug it and get volume coming out of their tablets. I'm looking for a way to make it absolutely impossible for them to use their device without headphones. Anyone achieve this with some special type of super glue?