Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait(dosaygo-studio.github.io)
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Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait
https://dosaygo-studio.github.io/hn-front-page-2035/news-max.html
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My favorite so far is “Delty (YC X25) Is Hiring and You Probably Aren't Qualified”.
I felt the front page was too calm. I fixed it. YOU WON'T BELIEVE NUMBER 4.
Prompt: Remember this classic? <snip ... Hacker News 10 Years in Future > OK, i have a new idea. want to try? "Offtopic but this title makes me want to create an alternate-universe version of the HN front page where every title is shrill/spectacular/hysterical/urgent/clickbaity. Such as: The Absolute State of the Kernel Rust Experiment Right Now And every comment has its confidence/aggressiveness taken up to 11 (tho still within site rules)." And the HN front page right now is: <snip>
Prompt: Remember this classic? <snip ... Hacker News 10 Years in Future > OK, i have a new idea. want to try? "Offtopic but this title makes me want to create an alternate-universe version of the HN front page where every title is shrill/spectacular/hysterical/urgent/clickbaity. Such as: The Absolute State of the Kernel Rust Experiment Right Now And every comment has its confidence/aggressiveness taken up to 11 (tho still within site rules)." And the HN front page right now is: <snip>
I love it, this is great. Thanks for posting!
Hey, wait a minute. I think we got something here! What we need is the reverse, i.e. a LLM that recognizes clickbait and "tames" it (ideally by providing the information in the headline, like Techmeme does [kudos to them]).
https://www.bullshitremover.com/
I have a lot of fun with this.
I have a lot of fun with this.
it is not very good at removing nonsense from OP's page :(.
I had another idea about the same topic a few weeks ago: Creating a news side which uses the clickbait strategy to only share positive news or mentaly opening up news:
“They Said Immigration Was a Crisis — Then THIS Happened to Jobs, Growth, and Local Communities”
“Everyone Expected Chaos… Instead This City Welcomed Newcomers and Its Economy EXPLODED”
“Doctors, Teachers, Builders: The ‘Immigration Problem’ Quietly Fixed a Problem No One Talks About”
“This ‘Risky’ Policy Was Supposed to Fail — Now Other Countries Are Rushing to Copy It”
“From ‘Unmanageable’ to Unstoppable: How One Tough Challenge Became a Surprising Success Story”
“They Said Immigration Was a Crisis — Then THIS Happened to Jobs, Growth, and Local Communities”
“Everyone Expected Chaos… Instead This City Welcomed Newcomers and Its Economy EXPLODED”
“Doctors, Teachers, Builders: The ‘Immigration Problem’ Quietly Fixed a Problem No One Talks About”
“This ‘Risky’ Policy Was Supposed to Fail — Now Other Countries Are Rushing to Copy It”
“From ‘Unmanageable’ to Unstoppable: How One Tough Challenge Became a Surprising Success Story”
This is exactly what Upworthy did - they invented some of the clickbait headline formats that are still used today (for less positive news) https://web.archive.org/web/20231114181702/https://www.fastc...
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Like goodnews.eu?
This is a great idea: applying LLMs for the benefit of those I care about against the armies of tech company PhD's working to capture their attention.
Actually worth a shot, thanks!
Actually worth a shot, thanks!
There is a browser extension that does it for YouTube (but crowdsourced)
This is amazing
Edit: Just found out HN deletes emojis!
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On a more serious note, it's a bit sad how close this is to actual algorithm-driven social media or news-based platforms.
Edit: Just found out HN deletes emojis!
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On a more serious note, it's a bit sad how close this is to actual algorithm-driven social media or news-based platforms.
> algorithm-driven
hackernews is algorithm-driven too; the difference is incentives (namely paid ads)
hackernews is algorithm-driven too; the difference is incentives (namely paid ads)
Yes, that's true, thanks for highlighting.
Should instead say personalised algorithms and targeted ads.
Should instead say personalised algorithms and targeted ads.
np, it is a hobby horse of mine to point this out in case people are reading and haven’t thought about the difference in some of these algorithms and others
It's kind of sad how close this is to actual hacker news headlines.
Breaking: Huffington Post buys Hacker News.
At least the HuffPo of the last decade was like this. They haven't been relevant for many years it seems.
As to its founder: http://www.thestacksreader.com/the-many-faces-of-arianna/
At least the HuffPo of the last decade was like this. They haven't been relevant for many years it seems.
As to its founder: http://www.thestacksreader.com/the-many-faces-of-arianna/
Perhaps we need one that does the opposite, for the real site
Challenge...accepted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46326588
Totally unreadable with the all caps. I guess that's the point.
This kind of thing is fun once. And it was fun when the AI-generated fake HN was posted last week.
But there's no need to upvote this kind of stuff to front page every week. The novelty wears off. It gets boring and silly pretty quickly.
This kind of thing is fun once. And it was fun when the AI-generated fake HN was posted last week.
But there's no need to upvote this kind of stuff to front page every week. The novelty wears off. It gets boring and silly pretty quickly.
> This kind of thing is fun once. And it was fun when the AI-generated fake HN was posted last week.
Yes, this is always the dynamic with follow-ups. Curiosity value diminishes sharply with repetition. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329337
Yes, this is always the dynamic with follow-ups. Curiosity value diminishes sharply with repetition. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329337
It's boring and silly for you. There are always lucky 10,000.
That's true and there are disjoint subsets:
(1) people who didn't see the original post from last week (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632), for whom the follow-up is therefore new and interesting;
(2) people who did see the original post but appreciate the follow-ups as fun and amusing variations on the theme, and therefore want them on the frontpage.
But from a moderation point of view we can't prioritize either of those cases, since doing so would be globally suboptimal, i.e. they would make the site less interesting overall in the long run. This is where it's handy to know what one is optimizing for (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...) and to have clear principles which support it (more on this at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329337).
Of course, there is always room for occasional exceptions—we don't want to apply the "avoid repetition" principle too repetitively!—but they have to be limited, or the principle no longer holds.
If you* imagine a topic X that you don't find extra interesting, and then consider how much more annoying each Xi in the sequence X1, X2,... becomes if the deltas between Xi and Xi+1 get too small, and then remember that people have quite different feelings about which topics deserve or don't deserve extra attention, it becomes clear that the global optimization is to downweight follow-ups generally. I'm writing this in haste so I hope it makes sense!
* (I don't mean you personally, but anyone here)
(1) people who didn't see the original post from last week (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632), for whom the follow-up is therefore new and interesting;
(2) people who did see the original post but appreciate the follow-ups as fun and amusing variations on the theme, and therefore want them on the frontpage.
But from a moderation point of view we can't prioritize either of those cases, since doing so would be globally suboptimal, i.e. they would make the site less interesting overall in the long run. This is where it's handy to know what one is optimizing for (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...) and to have clear principles which support it (more on this at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329337).
Of course, there is always room for occasional exceptions—we don't want to apply the "avoid repetition" principle too repetitively!—but they have to be limited, or the principle no longer holds.
If you* imagine a topic X that you don't find extra interesting, and then consider how much more annoying each Xi in the sequence X1, X2,... becomes if the deltas between Xi and Xi+1 get too small, and then remember that people have quite different feelings about which topics deserve or don't deserve extra attention, it becomes clear that the global optimization is to downweight follow-ups generally. I'm writing this in haste so I hope it makes sense!
* (I don't mean you personally, but anyone here)
Of course it is boring and silly for me. That's why I commented. The downvotes show the community agrees with you and disagrees with me. That's fine. I'm here to speak my opinion. I'm not here to speak your opinion.
I know about lucky 10000. It's the XKCD joke that is increasingly being used as an excuse to support every low-effort banal post. It's like modus operandus now. Party A makes a low-effort banal post. Party B questions why a banal post deserves to be on the front page. Party C says 'lucky 10000'.
There may be lucky 10000 but it's boring and silly for me. Good for the lucky 10000, but it's distracting to me when this kind of AI spam hits the front page every week. Show HN posts already gets special appearance at /show which I think is enough for this kind of stuff.
I know about lucky 10000. It's the XKCD joke that is increasingly being used as an excuse to support every low-effort banal post. It's like modus operandus now. Party A makes a low-effort banal post. Party B questions why a banal post deserves to be on the front page. Party C says 'lucky 10000'.
There may be lucky 10000 but it's boring and silly for me. Good for the lucky 10000, but it's distracting to me when this kind of AI spam hits the front page every week. Show HN posts already gets special appearance at /show which I think is enough for this kind of stuff.
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Yes but this is a different experiment
It is and I said as much. I'm sure these experiments are fun for the creator. From the downvotes I'm getting, I'm sure it's fun for the community too. It was fun for me too the first time. It's not fun if this type of experiments are on the front page every week. There's already a good home for these posts at /show. Pages can reach /show without reaching front page. This could have been one of them. But anyway others here disagree with me. So I'll go take a break now.
This feels like a 6/10 on the scale of hysterical clickbait headlines I see on YouTube.
Please help us improve it.
...GONE SEXUAL!
But more seriously, get off youtube or curate your stream if this is a common thing. I thankfully don't get it much myself.
But more seriously, get off youtube or curate your stream if this is a common thing. I thankfully don't get it much myself.
These are things that bring a lot of joy, just like the funny quotes on https://wordgag.com/
Thank you!
I felt literal pain. Not kidding.
There's something to investigate here.
Made me notice I'm actually exposed to very similar crap on other places. Scary.
There's something to investigate here.
Made me notice I'm actually exposed to very similar crap on other places. Scary.
yes, the good news is that once recognized the pattern we can work in the opposite direction
Could be renamed HNX as these are the posts I see trending on X (twitter)
Some of the headlines are pure gold. Is this page live-updated? I can feel an addiction sneaking up on me…
Some platforms might buy this as an engagement booster.
Some platforms might buy this as an engagement booster.
So you've recreated /r/technology ? :)
MIND BLOWING DISCOVERY CREATES INFINITE ENERGY AND CURES CANCER at least 10x a day.
* Disclaimer: in mice, of course.
What's actually mind-blowing is how mice aren't already living till an age of 100. I mean, they've literally cured cancer, what's your excuse now, huh?
What's actually mind-blowing is how mice aren't already living till an age of 100. I mean, they've literally cured cancer, what's your excuse now, huh?
No dementia, no osteoporosis, more muscled. Every single white mouse in the world should be Mighty Mouse.
I love this, thank you for a good belly laugh.
I don't always like HN titles but this made me realize it can be a whole lot worse. Thanks for this.
Reads very much like the Drudge Report, just needs the same diagramming style.
The icon for this needs to be the meme of Elmo in front of fire.
This is very close to your submission last week (3345 points, 977 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632
Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait: https://news.ycombinator.com/
in Rust
some of these are better headlines tho
10/10, no notes.
wait "19th Century Telegraph Chess" ??
Yes, it fell off the front page but it's this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46243311
This is great.
Well, in reality, the amount of abusive publishers submitting articles with PAYWALLS is getting absurd on HN.
HN ought to indicate these titles in ALL RED.
WSJ, FT, BLM, too many to count.
HN ought to indicate these titles in ALL RED.
WSJ, FT, BLM, too many to count.
Thank god for archiv replies.
you created .. The Registry?!
The Register? [1]
1. https://www.theregister.com/
1. https://www.theregister.com/
These headlines really sound like the glorious The Register of Old, before the suits showed up and murdered it.
I like it.
It’s better.
It’s better.
Love it!
Right now on page 2 of actual HN: "how to hack discord, vercel and more with one easy trick". For a moment I thought I was still on clickbait HN.
Now all we need is a thumbnail next to each headline showing the author making some stupid face.
Gotta have the digital laugh track analogue to show people how to react.
(I'm not kidding, a ton of people will watch e.g. movie trailers or live streamed events through one of many reaction streamers so they get prompted on how to feel. I hated laugh tracks back then, I hate reaction streamers now, let me have my own feelings!)
(I'm not kidding, a ton of people will watch e.g. movie trailers or live streamed events through one of many reaction streamers so they get prompted on how to feel. I hated laugh tracks back then, I hate reaction streamers now, let me have my own feelings!)
Absolutely disgusting! Love it!