Ask HN: What do people think of Apple's Siri?
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I’m not a voice assistant person, so I thought it was fine for what it was, especially historically. I’d mostly just use it to set timers and things.
Right now seems to be an odd time to evaluate it and prompt people to trash it, considering they just announced a complete overhaul coming in the fall that’s currently in a developer beta with a public beta coming next month.
Right now seems to be an odd time to evaluate it and prompt people to trash it, considering they just announced a complete overhaul coming in the fall that’s currently in a developer beta with a public beta coming next month.
me too, timers are one thing i use it for. i don't know about the overhaul tbh, I think Apple Intelligence is another topic itself but I am curious as to how/what they will do specifically.
I think Apple holding back on AI investment is crazy.
I think Apple holding back on AI investment is crazy.
The announcement, with demos, is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF8swzNR1-o
Holding back may have been the smartest thing Apple could have done. Instead of racing to win a race, investing hundreds of billions of dollars in the process, they can simply pick the the model winners and integrate it into their existing platforms for pennies on the dollar... and shift that model over time if the winners change. Their hardware was already well positioned, as they had been integrating neural engines into their chips for many years, and people have been buying their hardware like crazy for that. They're selling shovels. So they get the upside, without the cost and risk of trying to win the frontier model race.
With what they announced for the changes in Siri, I'm betting a lot of average AI users will just use Siri instead of bothering with a stand alone AI subscription. They get Gemini, plus integration with all their data, all with better privacy than any of the frontier models are offering directly.
Holding back may have been the smartest thing Apple could have done. Instead of racing to win a race, investing hundreds of billions of dollars in the process, they can simply pick the the model winners and integrate it into their existing platforms for pennies on the dollar... and shift that model over time if the winners change. Their hardware was already well positioned, as they had been integrating neural engines into their chips for many years, and people have been buying their hardware like crazy for that. They're selling shovels. So they get the upside, without the cost and risk of trying to win the frontier model race.
With what they announced for the changes in Siri, I'm betting a lot of average AI users will just use Siri instead of bothering with a stand alone AI subscription. They get Gemini, plus integration with all their data, all with better privacy than any of the frontier models are offering directly.
interesting demo, i do love the emphasis on privacy AI.
i wasn't referring them to join the frontier model race. i feel like they could do so much more in the space even stuff related to privacy AI and research.
i am excited to try the next version of Siri though.
i wasn't referring them to join the frontier model race. i feel like they could do so much more in the space even stuff related to privacy AI and research.
i am excited to try the next version of Siri though.
I assume he’s asking about the new Siri. Or else he’s a time traveler
I’m also really curious.
I usually prefer using other voice assistants, but Siri is kind of dumb, so I pretty much never use it.
I usually prefer using other voice assistants, but Siri is kind of dumb, so I pretty much never use it.
I see. What other voice assistants do you prefer using?
call me weird but i never got into voice anything
i don't want to talk out loud to my devices, i just want to turn a dial or press a button and move on. god forbid i have to type.
i don't want to talk out loud to my devices, i just want to turn a dial or press a button and move on. god forbid i have to type.
you're WEIRD lol
you've never wanted to say "hey siri, can you start a timer for 10 mins?" or "hey siri, what's the weather like?".
would you talk to your devices, if it made you more productive/do more cool stuff?
you've never wanted to say "hey siri, can you start a timer for 10 mins?" or "hey siri, what's the weather like?".
would you talk to your devices, if it made you more productive/do more cool stuff?
lol
ofc i tried it a few times
im so minimalist tbh
ofc i tried it a few times
im so minimalist tbh
Pretty bad. It seems to have very limited context, and it mostly cant follow up on things if you have additional things to ask. It was ~fine when it first came out, but seems to have made basically zero progress since then, and frankly feels pretty dumb compared to talking with modern LLM-type apps.
yeah agree, i guess there was no compounding scaling tech that was used for siri but now that the new siri is coming out, it's interesting to see how people react to it and if they change their views.
i'm certainly open to changing mines!
i'm certainly open to changing mines!
Most of the things I've heard are pretty negative but is it just that Apple can't build a good enough assistant or is that people just don't interacting with one (in this specific way)?
Would love to hear any thoughts!