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Self-Fulfilling Misalignment Data Might Be Poisoning Our AI Models

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·3 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I agree that they called many things remarkably well! That doesn't change the fact that AI 2027 is not a thing which happened, so it isn't valid to point out "this killed us in AI 2027." There are many reasons to want to preserve CoT monitorability. Instead of AI 2027, I'd point to https://arxiv.org/html/2507.11473.
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·3 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
AI 2027 is not a real thing which happened. At best, it is informed speculation.
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·11 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
No one has empirically validated the so-called "most forbidden" descriptor. It's a theoretical worry which may or may not be correct. We should run experiments to find out.
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·12 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
As someone who did their PhD in RL and alignment, it was not obvious to me a priori if, or when, or how badly obfuscation would be a problem. Yes, it's been predicted (and was predicted significantly before that Zvi post). But many other alignment fears have been _predicted_, and those didn't actually happen.

I don't think the existence of specification gaming in unrelated settings was strong evidence that obfuscation would occur in modern CoT supervision. Speculatively, I think CoT obfuscation happens due to the internal structure of LLMs and it being inductively "easier" to reweight model circuits to not admit wrongthink, rather than to rewire circuits to solve problems in entirely different ways.
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·ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
> The #1 comment says that the rationality community is about "trying to reason about things from first principle", when if fact it is the opposite.

Oh? Eliezer Yudkowsky (the most prominent Rationalist) bragged about how he was able to figure out AI was dangerous (the most stark Rationalist claim) from "the null string as input."[1]

[1] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uMQ3cqWDPHhjtiesc/agi-ruin-a...
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·ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
They ran (at least) two control conditions. In one, they finetuned on secure code instead of insecure code -- no misaligned behavior. In the other, they finetuned on the same insecure code, but added a request for insecure code to the training prompts. Also no misaligned behavior.

So it isn't catastrophic forgetting due to training on 6K examples.