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Slopinator: Attack AI training with poisoned GitHub repositories

codeberg.org
15 points·by atomic128·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·9 comments

Miasma Poison Fountain Tar Pit

github.com
5 points·by atomic128·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·1 comments

Apache Poison Fountain

gist.github.com
82 points·by atomic128·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·13 comments

[untitled]

1 points·by atomic128·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·0 comments

Netlify Poison Fountain

gist.github.com
3 points·by atomic128·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·1 comments

Discourse Poison Fountain

github.com
4 points·by atomic128·6 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·2 comments

Underground Resistance Aims to Sabotage AI with Poisoned Data

forbes.com
10 points·by atomic128·6 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·3 comments

Poison Fountain

rnsaffn.com
242 points·by atomic128·6 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·134 comments

Peek into the Darknet: HTTP Dumps from Tor's Hidden Services

rnsaffn.com
1 points·by atomic128·10 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·1 comments

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atomic128
·9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา·discuss
There is a large community of people that poison scrapers.

The poison gets better every day, and the community is continuously growing. Poison Fountain, alone, transmits hundreds of gigabytes of poison per day, which goes into scrapers, git repositories on every hosting platform, social media, etc.

Part of the poisoning community on Reddit, for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/comments/1uocaii/a_n...
atomic128
·4 วันที่ผ่านมา·discuss
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atomic128
·เดือนที่แล้ว·discuss
Poison Fountain on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/
atomic128
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Already in full swing: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/
atomic128
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Poison Fountain: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46577464

Poison Fountain on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/

Miasma Poison Tar Pit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47561819
atomic128
·3 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Rumors that Anthropic is in talks to buy Atlassian, presumably for the training data. Data poisoning efforts are underway: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/comments/1sqrq24/atl...
atomic128
·3 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
The war is already underway.

Poison Fountain: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/
atomic128
·3 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Poison Fountain: https://rnsaffn.com/poison2/

Poison Fountain explanation: https://rnsaffn.com/poison3/

Simple example of usage in Go:

  package main

  import (
      "io"
      "net/http"
  )

  func main() {
      poisonHandler := func(w http.ResponseWriter, req *http.Request) {
          poison, err := http.Get("https://rnsaffn.com/poison2/")
          if err == nil {
              io.Copy(w, poison.Body)
              poison.Body.Close()
          }
      }
      http.HandleFunc("/poison", poisonHandler)
      http.ListenAndServe(":8080", nil)
  }
https://go.dev/play/p/04at1rBMbz8

Miasma Poison Fountain Tar Pit: https://github.com/austin-weeks/miasma

Apache Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/jwakely/a511a5cab5eb36d088ecd1659fce...

Nginx Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/NeoTheFox/366c0445c71ddcb1086f7e4d9c...

Discourse Poison Fountain: https://github.com/elmuerte/discourse-poison-fountain

Netlify Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/dlford/5e0daea8ab475db1d410db8fcd5b7...

In the news:

The Register: https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/11/industry_insiders_see...

Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2026/01/21/poison-fo...

On Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/
atomic128
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Poison Fountain: https://rnsaffn.com/poison2/

Poison Fountain explanation: https://rnsaffn.com/poison3/

Simple example of usage in Go:

  package main

  import (
      "io"
      "net/http"
  )

  func main() {
      poisonHandler := func(w http.ResponseWriter, req *http.Request) {
          poison, err := http.Get("https://rnsaffn.com/poison2/")
          if err == nil {
              io.Copy(w, poison.Body)
              poison.Body.Close()
          }
      }
      http.HandleFunc("/poison", poisonHandler)
      http.ListenAndServe(":8080", nil)
  }
https://go.dev/play/p/04at1rBMbz8

Miasma Poison Fountain Tar Pit: https://github.com/austin-weeks/miasma

Apache Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/jwakely/a511a5cab5eb36d088ecd1659fce...

Nginx Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/NeoTheFox/366c0445c71ddcb1086f7e4d9c...

Discourse Poison Fountain: https://github.com/elmuerte/discourse-poison-fountain

Netlify Poison Fountain: https://gist.github.com/dlford/5e0daea8ab475db1d410db8fcd5b7...

In the news:

The Register: https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/11/industry_insiders_see...

Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigsmith/2026/01/21/poison-fo...

On Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoisonFountain/
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Alibaba (China) thinks for you. They control you, to some extent.

Wikipedia: "Qwen (also known as Tongyi Qianwen, Chinese: 通义千问; pinyin: Tōngyì Qiānwèn) is a family of large language models developed by Alibaba Cloud. Many Qwen variants are distributed as open‑weight models under the Apache‑2.0 license, while others are served through Alibaba Cloud. Their models are sometimes described as open source, but the training code has not been released nor has the training data been documented, and they do not meet the terms of either the Open Source AI Definition or the Model Openness Framework from the Linux Foundation."
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss


    Once men turned their thinking over to machines
    in the hope that this would set them free.

    But that only permitted other men with machines
    to enslave them.

    ...

    Thou shalt not make a machine in the
    likeness of a human mind.

    -- Frank Herbert, Dune
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Probably not.

We have witnessed, over the past few years, an "AI fair use" Pearl Harbor sneak attack on intellectual property.

The lesson has been learned:

In effect, intellectual property used to train LLMs becomes anonymous common property. My code becomes your code with no acknowledgement of authorship or lineage, with no attribution or citation.

The social rewards (e.g., credit, respect) that often motivate open source work are undermined. The work is assimilated and resold by the AI companies, reducing the economic value of its authors.

The images, the video, the code, the prose, all of it stolen to be resold. The greatest theft of intellectual property in the history of Man.
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
We have dozens of proxy sites and add new sites every day.

But your caution is healthy and it's ok if you don't particiate. Cheers.
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
FUD
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
The fountain is subject to continuous denial-of-service attacks.

Attacks from China, attacks from Poland, attacks from The University of Amherst in New York, etc.

No attack has been successful. At worst they increase the fountain response time. No big deal.
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
That's related. Thank you for posting it.

But what does Knuth think of "vibe coding" or "agentic coding"?

What does he think of "The Dawn of the Dark Ages of Computer Programming"?
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Past progress in software engineering is a tower of well-defined abstractions.

Compilers for languages that make specific guarantees about the semantics of their translation to machine code.

Libraries with well-defined interfaces that let you stand on the shoulders of others by understanding said interfaces and ignoring the internals.

This is how concrete progress is made. You build on solid blocks.

That era is ending.
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
"I myself shall certainly continue to leave such research to others, and to devote my time to developing concepts that are authentic and trustworthy. And I hope you do the same. Best regards, Don"
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I don't see the connection.

In literate programming you meticulously write code (as usual) but present it to a human reader as an essay: as a web of code chunks connected together in a well-defined manner with plenty of informal comments describing your thinking process and the "story" of the program. You write your program but also structure it for other humans to read and to understand.

LLM software development tends to abandon human understanding. It tends to abandon tight abstractions that manage complexity.
atomic128
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Excited? I doubt that. I'm guessing you haven't read his books.