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Creators Coalition on AI

creatorscoalitionai.com
3 points·by knowtheory·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·0 comments

Tangled: A social coding platform built with ATProto and Git

tangled.org
19 points·by knowtheory·9 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·1 comments

We can just do things together

leaflet.pub
5 points·by knowtheory·9 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·0 comments

Open Social

overreacted.io
991 points·by knowtheory·10 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·388 comments

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knowtheory
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I was similarly confused, and did some digging to determine that they are not related:

https://twitter.com/DAIRInstitute/status/1830719509931663411...
knowtheory
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Yeah, capability for group permissions is a key part of the work happening on permissioned data in ATproto right now.

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mfrsbcn2gk2a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mguviy6iks2a

https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mhj6bcqats2o
knowtheory
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I dunno man. Why was Tangled able to ship on top of ATProto even prior to getting funded, and ForgeFed has been hanging out for years?
knowtheory
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I think you're missing the point.

With the IndieWeb version of POSSE, the source of truth is the webpage you control.

For the ATProto version of POSSE, the source of truth is the record in your PDS. That record is interesting because it is both content-addressed and signed with your private key.

Where ever that record is syndicated, the reader (or app displaying the content) should be able to demonstrably verify the authenticity of the record.

And you can host your own PDS entirely independent of Bluesky, there are several interfaces for both reading and publishing Standard.site records:

* Leaflet (https://leaflet.pub/ )

* pckt (https://pckt.blog/ )

* Wordpress (https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-atproto )

It's also not that hard to write your own display interface for just your data if you want.
knowtheory
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
This isn't accurate tho.

Neither Bluesky, nor other ATProto services require any of this.

RedDwarf is an example of an ATProto client that connects only with your PDS, uses Microcosm (https://www.microcosm.blue/ )'s aggregation index (they calculate aggregate counts for a variety of things with a couple of raspberry pis run off of a home fiber connection): https://reddwarf.app/

No big iron anywhere in the picture.

You give up the ability to search the network, but okay, that's already a feature that all Mastodon users sacrifice as well.
knowtheory
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Yes, as far as i know it's an honest self-report kind of thing.
knowtheory
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
There are a lot of misunderstandings about what Blacksky is assuming that it's a just a community fork of Bluesky.

The Blacksky team has a much broader vision for which they decided ATProto was the right architecture.

There's a lot more to read about them up on their site: https://blackskyweb.xyz/
knowtheory
·4 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I love that the initial state itself isn't stable.

The world keeps moving around us. Can't choose staying still.
knowtheory
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Anybody can sign up for Blacksky.
knowtheory
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
This is a piece written by Jeff Jarvis who was a founder of Entertainment Weekly and then a long time professor focused on innovation and journalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jarvis

So, it's a term of art, and i'll even agree that it's got a bit of a tech-y pejorative lean to it, but it's in wide use, and Jarvis certainly isn't solely a person who comes from tech.
knowtheory
·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I wouldn't write ATProto off as just microblogging, there are a bunch of interesting (and exciting depending on your POV) apps out there that _aren't_ microblogging apps. To name a few:

* https://stream.place

* https://tangled.org

* https://www.germnetwork.com/

* https://slices.network/

* https://smokesignal.events/

* https://www.graze.social/
knowtheory
·10 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
There's still some more work to do to make the developer experience simple enough that it's a no-brainer for people to pick ATProto up in anger.

But there's a lot of work developing on that front, and the next 6-12 months will be super exciting to watch.

The longer story is that most people don't understand that ATProto is more than just Bluesky, and the usecases are wayyyyyy broader. That's going to take more time to play out in the market.
knowtheory
·10 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I'd argue that ATProto is the next iteration of open internet. It's what an internet where accounts/identity and verifiable content attribution are built in, and nobody using the technology needs to think about any of that.

There's a space here where we can move from nobody having smart phones or hosting digital presences -> everyone having digital presence provided by Facebook/Instagram, and icloud/google accounts -> Accounts w/ something like ATProto where its your stuff, you get to decide where you keep it, and you get to decide who gets access to it.
knowtheory
·15 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
I disagree. Where V8 can run is a core part of the deployment surface of node.js, so what server authors think about V8 and it's suitability for integration and deployment very much matter to node.js.

Remember, 'does rails scale'? :|