Guys, the x-ryzens are not overclocking stuff, sure good for it, but what they do is increase the speed as much as possible on the fly meaning if you cool them, they run faster (read liquid cooling). This is true also at stock clocking/speed. So yes ryzen 1700 is great with it's 65 tdp, but 1700x is even greater also WITHOUT overclocking, but well cooled. No picking, just wanted to make this obvious.