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MiniMax-M3: A native multimodal model with 1M context

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10 points·by pcwelder·29 วันที่ผ่านมา·0 comments

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pcwelder
·28 วันที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Could be json or non json. Instead of using tools in API, you ask model to share structured output in text. You parse the string to get the JSON. Gives much more control over things you can do.

For example model shares

<tool_call name="getWeather"> <param name="city">London</param> </tool_call>
pcwelder
·28 วันที่ผ่านมา·discuss
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48496895

Found the time traveller.
pcwelder
·29 วันที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Great! Finally follows custom tool call format (k2.6 couldn't). It's a good indicator of instructions following and agentic behaviour.

UIs it's generating is pretty good, not without problems, but certainly better than other models at this price point.
pcwelder
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
None of the deepseek models are multimodal. How are you guys able to use it in daily work without image input?

For example it's just so natural to share screenshots in a chat.
pcwelder
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Opus 4.7 selects such palette and motifs by default. Might even be first iteration of claude design.
pcwelder
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Opus is not the correct tier to compare this flash model with.

On my tasks it has not been as good as even Sonnet 4.6 so far.

Instruction following over long context feels worse.

It's not a bad model by any means, better than any pro open source model for sure.
pcwelder
·2 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
It's worth noting that Claude Code itself doesn't use the `insert` tool. (It also uses custom edit tool not the suite's predefined str_replace)

Also as a person developing agentic code tools since before Claude Code, I'm skeptical if str_replace provides accuracy improvement over just full rewrite.

Back in the day when SOTA models would do lazy coding like `// ... rest of the code ...`, full rewrite wasn't easy. Search/replace was fast, efficient and without the lazy coding. However, it came with slight accuracy drop.

Today that accuracy drop might be minimal/absent, but I'm not sure if it could lead to improvements like preventing doc corruption.
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
To sonnet 4.6 if you tell it first that "You're being tested for intelligence." It answers correctly 100% of the times.

My hypothesis is that some models err towards assuming human queries are real and consistent and not out there to break them.

This comes in real handy in coding agents because queries are sometimes gibberish till the models actually fetch the code files, then they make sense. Asking clarification immediately breaks agentic flows.
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Great work, but concurrency is lost.

With search-replace you could work on separate part of a file independently with the LLM. Not to mention with each edit all lines below are shifted so you now need to provide LLM with the whole content.

Have you tested followup edits on the same files?
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Cool! Please share your work if possible!

I couldn't decide on folding and reducing noise so I'm stuck on that front. I believe there is some elegant solution that I'm missing, hope to see your take.
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
All anthropic models. Gemini 2.5 pro and above. Gemini 3 flash is very good too.

GPT models can follow tool format correctly but don't keep on going.

Grok-4+ are decent but with issues in longer chats.

Kimi 2.5 has issues with it reverting to its RL tool format.
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
I had added z-ai in allow list explicitly and verified that it's the one being used.
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
It's live on openrouter now.

In my personal benchmark it's bad. So far the benchmark has been a really good indicator of instruction following and agentic behaviour in general.

To those who are curious, the benchmark is just the ability of model to follow a custom tool calling format. I ask it to using coding tasks using chat.md [1] + mcps. And so far it's just not able to follow it at all.

[1] https://github.com/rusiaaman/chat.md
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Each repost is worth it.

This, along with John Ousterhout's talk [1] on deep interfaces was transformational for me. And this is coming from a guy who codes in python, so lots of transferable learnings.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSAYlu0NcY
pcwelder
·5 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
> These are sending all files it can access

TBF, Cursor's code indexing works the same way, it has to send all workspace files to their servers.

Auto-completion systems need previous edits to suggest next edits so no surprises their either.
pcwelder
·6 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Sonnet has the same behavior: drops thinking on user message. Curiously in the latest Opus they have removed this behavior and all thinking tokens are preserved.
pcwelder
·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
```

from anthropic.types import MessageParam

data: list[MessageParam] = [{"role": "user", "content": [{"type": "text", "text": ""}]}]

```

This for example works both in mypy and pyright. (Also autocompletion of typedict keys / literals from pylance is missing)
pcwelder
·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
Displaying inferred types inline is a killer feature (inspired from rust lang server?). It was a pleasant surprise!

It's fast too as promised.

However, it doesn't work well with TypedDicts and that's a show-stopper for us. Hoping to see that support soon.
pcwelder
·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
To those who are not deterred and feel yolo mode is worth the risk, there are two patterns that should perk your ears up.

- Cleanup or deletion tasks. Be ready to hit ctrl c anytime. Led to disastrous nukes in two reddit threads.

- Errors impacting the whole repo, especially those that are difficult to solve. In such cases if it decides to reset and redo, it may remove sensitive paths as well.

It removed my repo once because "it had multiple problems and was better to it write from scratch".

- Any weird behavior, "this doesn't seem right", "looks like shell isn't working correctly" indicative of application bug. It might employ dangerous workarounds.
pcwelder
·7 เดือนที่ผ่านมา·discuss
It just fetched the HTML and replicated it. The usage of table is a giveaway.

Any LLM with browser tool can do it (Kombai one shots it too for example), because it's just cheating.