peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

Fair point. I was too dismissive in my earlier response, and I apologize. You raised strong and valid arguments. My perspective is shaped by a long pattern of historical collapses, but I’d truly welcome any examples or evidence that point to a different trajectory.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

I hope you are right. I am not seeing any evidence that you are, but I still hope you are.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

> Any living creature would fit that definition of "civilization"

It would not. I said civilization "extracts resources, generates waste and disrupts ecosystems". A sponge does not disrupt its ecosystem. In fact, it keeps it alive.

> Non-native species often disrupt ecosystems when introduced somewhere new.

And how does this happen exactly? Non-native species do not just walk around - you need humans and civilization to move them around, and create exactly these kinds of issues.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

Of course it is. Every civilization so far has ended due to internal collapse. I'd love to hear arguments and evidence about why you believe our society is on a different path.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

> That's not a necessary part of civilization, it's just the way we're doing it currently.

All civilizations including ours have been doing it this way, so you can argue it is a part of the civilization. It’s a comforting fiction that humanity can fundamentally change its character, but the history proves otherwise.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

> To begin with, a planet can be "dirty" without any civilization. Most planets are.

They can also be clean. Look at Earth. Don't see an argument here. We are discussing whether civilization pollutes or not, not whether planets are inherently habitable or inhibitable.

> We have seen it is possible.

Where have we seen it possible?

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

Accept the destruction of civilization as a fact. The Earth will be just fine.

peter_vukovic

12 เดือนที่ผ่านมาdiscuss

From a systems perspective, civilization is the greatest pollutant. Whether it's Mesopotamia, Rome, industrial Britain, or the modern global economy, each civilization is a complex machine that extracts resources, generates waste and disrupts ecosystems. There’s no version of it that’s truly sustainable long-term, just degrees of delay or harm reduction.

There is absolutely nothing special about beef. We could replace beef with palm oil, lithium, air travel, or even data centers. The same system logic applies: convert energy and resources into power, growth, and order, while displacing entropy elsewhere.

A clean planet is a planet without civilization. This is a factual observation, not nihilism.

peter_vukovic

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Apple is simply continuing to do what Apple does best - building strong products and protecting their ecosystem.

Does that mean some vendors will be treated unfairly? Of course.

Does it mean Apple users will remain happy? Absolutely.

If there is one OS that is anti-tinkering by design it is iOS, and yet people keep criticizing this intentional design decision that forms a large part of Apple’s moat.

peter_vukovic

ปีที่แล้วdiscuss

An article on user interfaces that is barely usable on a mobile phone due to scroll hijacking is hardly making a convincing point.

peter_vukovic

7 ปีที่แล้วdiscuss

Creating anything is a craft and creating software programs is no different. While everyone should strive to learn how to write programs well so the intent isn’t obfuscated, it ultimately boils down to two factors: programmer’s experience and talent. Most programs, like most works of art, will be utter crap and nonsense, as most artists are - with rare notable differences. This is why I heavily support frameworks and prescriptive style of programming, or “opinionated” systems as some would call them. They are usually invented by people much smarter than the average Joe and ultimately generate better long term results. It would benefit our productivity much more if we invested efforts into translating these brilliant minds into compiler features so the compiler checks for style as well, not just “spelling”. We need Grammarly for code.

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